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MSNBC Democrat Debate-LIVE THREAD
MSNBC | 10-29-.7 | MSNBC

Posted on 10/30/2007 4:40:34 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Didn't see one up, but Matthews has been giving me too many straight lines to pass up on!!!


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To: AmericanMade1776

“Stuck on stupid.”


781 posted on 10/30/2007 7:47:51 PM PDT by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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To: MaxMax

Obaba is setting up for VP. Suck-up/


782 posted on 10/30/2007 7:48:09 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Pittsburgher

Now that’s the answer, just throw money at the problem, but whose money


783 posted on 10/30/2007 7:48:19 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Bobkk47

Walmart is evil.

Really, I didn’t know that Hillary was still on the board there.


784 posted on 10/30/2007 7:48:23 PM PDT by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: MaxMax

Obama says implementing a universal health care system will free up dollars so they can pay doctors more? He might be more nuts than Ron Paul.


785 posted on 10/30/2007 7:48:35 PM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: casino66

Uhoh Kucinich is the author of a bill 486.... he wrote it on his last UFO trip.


786 posted on 10/30/2007 7:48:44 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
IS THERE A LIVE AUDIENCE?

I DON"T HEAR ANY APPLAUSE?

787 posted on 10/30/2007 7:48:52 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: exit82
In 1983 the SS tax was raised not for current expenditures, which was well in hand then. It was raised specifically to avert the crisis that would come in the 2015 time range when the Boomers were in massive retirement and drawing benefits.

You must have drunk the Dem Kool-aid. SS is a pay as you go system. In 1982 SS was paying out more than it was taking in. Therefore, the General Fund had to start redeeming the non-market T-bills in the SS Trust Fund to pay benefits. Thus, Congress has to come up with the money to redeem the T-bills either by raising taxes or cutting spending. They decided to increase taxes, force all new federal employees into the system, and reduce benefits including raising the retirement age for full benefits from 65 to 67.

Here is the evolution of the SS tax rate since its inception.

Here is the evolution of the cap.

Reagan and Tip O'Neill struck a Faustian bargain so that they could return SS into a cash cow. It was as simple as that. SS is unsustainable as currently structured. It is actuarially unsound. Even if you buy the charade that the SSTF contains real assets, the system will still go broke in 2041. You have to raise taxes and/or reduce benefits.

Social Security Board of Trustees Issues Annual Report

"Over the 75-year period, the Trust Funds would require additional revenue equivalent to $4.7 trillion in today’s dollars to pay all scheduled benefits. This unfunded obligation is about $100 billion higher than the amount estimated last year."

"“Social Security provides valuable economic protection to workers and their families. We owe it to the American public to continue to offer the best possible support for older Americans, people with disabilities and their families in the coming decades,” said Michael J. Astrue, Commissioner of Social Security. “The Trustees Report is an important tool for those in the legislative and executive branches who will have to make the very difficult decisions about how best to ensure Social Security remains viable for the long term.”

SS has not been on pay as you go at least since then.

SS has been a pay as you go system. No change was made in 1983 in that regard.

788 posted on 10/30/2007 7:49:14 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Govt. schools
Govt. medical care
Govt. in my home


789 posted on 10/30/2007 7:49:19 PM PDT by malia (President Bush***FreeRepublic*Rush*Beck*SandRat*FreeRepublic*Rush*Beck*SandRat)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Hillary just said she agreed with everything said there tonight.

Hitlery; all things to all people, unless you're conservative.

790 posted on 10/30/2007 7:49:33 PM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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To: mdittmar

I tell ya, it’s a fake debate.


791 posted on 10/30/2007 7:49:37 PM PDT by Balata
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To: mdittmar

The audience dozed off an hour ago.

The only thing that could save this lightning round is a lightning strike on stage.


792 posted on 10/30/2007 7:49:57 PM PDT by exit82 (I believe Juanita--Hillary enabled Juanita's rapist.)
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To: mdittmar

Wow...between all of them...government cradle-to-grave. Scary.


793 posted on 10/30/2007 7:49:57 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: mdittmar

Well, at least they have the courtesy not to snore


794 posted on 10/30/2007 7:50:11 PM PDT by Sapper26 (Quondo Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: mdittmar

There’s a live audience... but they’re all watching re-runs of Who’s The Boss on their Iphone.


795 posted on 10/30/2007 7:50:12 PM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: exit82

Exactly, no matter how lame these candidates are, there is some DU somewhere praising them for their nuances...

This debate is a snoozer, Russert asked tough ?, but they dodged the answers and with so many Dhimmis, it’s hard to keep track.

If a “R” emerges, we should win this.


796 posted on 10/30/2007 7:50:12 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on/Isaiah 3.3)
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To: mdittmar
mdittmar wrote: IS THERE A LIVE AUDIENCE? I DON"T HEAR ANY APPLAUSE?

I am afraid they just pulled the plug on the audience right after they slipped into a coma.

797 posted on 10/30/2007 7:50:31 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: exit82

None of them came back after the first break.


798 posted on 10/30/2007 7:50:35 PM PDT by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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To: casino66

KuKu just said “Even the insurance companies want universal health care”. What an idiot and a lie. Yes, KuKu, only if they are the winning bidder that makes a fortune.


799 posted on 10/30/2007 7:50:41 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: mdittmar

“All your audience be ours now”


800 posted on 10/30/2007 7:51:05 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on/Isaiah 3.3)
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