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Ali Al-Timimi, al-Qaeda and Anthrax
JAWA Report ^ | October 29, 2007 03:48 PM | Howie

Posted on 10/29/2007 2:22:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ali al-Timimi will be serving life for sedition. Specifically he was recruiting for al-Qaeda from the US. Scary enough, but read the whole article. It appears al-Qaeda had infiltrated US biodefense and has supporters/agents with access to the Ames strain of anthrax and the know how to make dried concentrated forms of the spores.

Via Bloggernews.net:A colleague of famed Russian bioweaponeer Ken Alibek and former USAMRIID head Charles Bailey, a prolific Ames strain researcher, has been convicted of sedition and sentenced to life in prison. He worked in a program co-sponsored by the American Type Culture Collection and had access to ATCC facilities, as well as facilities of the George Mason University Center for Biodefense. The Center for Biodefense was funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. The Center was run by Dr. Alibek and Dr. Bailey. The bionformatics grad student once had a high security clearance for mathematical support work for the Navy. In the 1990s, Ayman Zawahiri had Ali Mohammed infiltrate the CIA and US Army, and dupe the FBI. He did it all over again with Ali Al-Timimi. If we do not learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.
So the reports that the Antrax attacks were an inside job may not entirely false. The fact no one wants to admit is that al-Qaeda had managed to get inside.

I just happened across this this morning. The article is long but a couple of points that struck me were that al-Timimi had access to the area and there were complaints of lax security in the area where virulent strains were kept for patent reference purposes. Please read the entire thing carefully.



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To: gonzo

The guy that wrote the screenplay borrowed the technique from the SAS.

Shoulda known that came from a first class group.

Who Dares....Wins.


41 posted on 10/31/2007 7:25:41 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just finished reading the afterword in the Germs book...and the authors seemed convinced that the anthrax deaths following Sept 11 were connected to the same terrorists that flew the hijacked airliners...

When was the "Afterword" written? According to one of the authors, William Broad, the book "Germs" was published on September 1, 2001, and Amazon.com first listed it on September 11, 2001. Other sources say it was published on September 10, 2001.

I've exchanged many emails with both Bill Broad and Judy Miller. I seriously doubt that either of them currently believes that anyone connected to the 9/11 hijackers sent the anthrax letters. Any "Afterward" written between September 11 and October 15, 2001, would probably assume that al Qaeda was behind the letters. That's what virtually everyone thought before we started learning the facts about the letters.

For what it's worth, I read "Germs" and made a comment about it on November 13, 2005, when I pointed out some errors in the book.

I think it's important to understand that the farther back you go to the days immediately following 9/11, the more likely the information you'll find is tainted and distorted by mistaken beliefs and pure speculation. It takes awhile for facts, beliefs and speculation to get sorted out.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

42 posted on 10/31/2007 9:29:39 AM PDT by EdLake
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To: EdLake

I have the paperback ....2002 edition....afterword is new...it says on the cover...and is dated June 6, 2002 ....see page 341....


43 posted on 10/31/2007 12:37:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: EdLake

In May 2005, I spoke to Judy Miller and emailed her about the documents here. Besides noting I could have given exclusively to the NYT (but didn’t), she never expressed any doubt in her view that US-based operatives supporting the Salafists were responsible. But it’s now 2 1/2 years later and so someone should ask her. (Journalists are not in the business of expressing their view but instead just writing up news; so it’s not like I was probing her opinion). Her view would be especially interesting, though, because Scooter Libby allegedly was preoccupied in July or August 2003 about anthrax being smuggled into the country by AQ operatives (and she had met him twice). And, of course, she has lots of contacts, such as at DIA.

Suspect and A Setback In Al-Qaeda Anthrax Case
Scientist With Ties To Group Goes Free
By Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, October 31, 2006; Page A01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/30/AR2006103001250.html


44 posted on 10/31/2007 12:53:44 PM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook

If you could Freepmail those to me, that would be great!


45 posted on 10/31/2007 12:58:23 PM PDT by jpl (Dear Al Gore: it's 3:00 A.M., do you know where your drug addicted son is?)
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To: EdLake; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ed, do you believe it still a FACT (as distinguished from your theory) that a 1st grader who wrote the letters?

What probability do you think is it that a 1st grader wrote the letters?


46 posted on 10/31/2007 1:00:19 PM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: AliVeritas

PING


47 posted on 10/31/2007 1:27:51 PM PDT by sono (Hillary's Campaign Theme Song? Donovan, "Season of The Witch")
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To: EdLake; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ernest, this is what she thinks, from a November 2005 Larry King interview. Since this interview, there was, for example, Suskind’s report that extremely virulent anthrax was found (from before 9/11) in Kandahar, and various other dramatic news reports relating to Al Qaeda and anthrax (such as the Afghan governor who reported the seizure of anthrax in packets for mailing to government officials in a press conference)

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:-6Jt8zDN2hwJ:transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0511/10/lkl.01.html+%22Judy+Miller%22+anthrax+Qaeda&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=12&gl=us

MILLER; I know. No. I think just because I’m pretty persistent and dogged about covering issues and stories that I think are of interest and importance to the American people. I mean, I was concerned about al Qaeda long before it became fashionable in Washington to be worried about it. My colleague Jeff Gerth and I wrote the first long serious piece about al Qaeda for the “New York Times” back in the mid-’60s (sic). And then, of course, there was the wonderful series that I was a participant in that won the Pulitzer Prize in January 2001 for our series, “Three Parts on al Qaeda,” the threat it posed to the United States.

So, yes, I care passionately about threats to this country internal and external, and I work hard to make sure they get into the paper. And I guess that means that I’m an aggressive, pushy reporter. Guilty, as Bill Safire said, I’m not sometimes Ms. Congeniality.

I don’t think I’m quite the kind of terror that people said I am, but I guess I can get pretty persistent when I think a story is worth pursuing.

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KING: Anthrax — you wrote about it extensively. Still fear it?

MILLER: Absolutely. Absolutely. Why not? We still don’t know who put the anthrax into those envelopes that killed five people in our country and sickened 17, and put 20,000 on antibiotics. That investigation is still unsolved, so am I concerned about an Anthrax attack and biological attacks on the United States? I am. That’s why I wrote “Germs,” which you were kind enough to talk about on this show, with my colleagues at the “New York Times.”

We have to be concerned about WMD threats and terrorist threats to our cities. Look at what’s happened in London. The night I went to jail, Larry, the night I was in jail I woke up to the sound of the sirens in London and the dreadful subway bombings, and I thought oh my gosh, the same thing could happen in New York.

It has to flash through your mind if you’re a New Yorker or you live in Los Angeles or any major city. We are vulnerable and though a great deal has been done to try and make it safer, I think Katrina, the disaster, the natural disaster showed us how unprepared we remain. I think all Americans should be concerned about that. I certainly am.


48 posted on 10/31/2007 1:33:47 PM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook

Thanks I hadn’t seen that before....


49 posted on 10/31/2007 2:14:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: ZacandPook
Your information doesn't really say anything about what Judy Miller currently believes about the anthrax attacks of 2001. She's concerned about al Qaeda producing and using a bioweapon on the United States, but who isn't?

The article you cite includes this:

U.S. officials are even more reticent in discussing possible links between al-Qaeda's anthrax program and the 2001 U.S. attacks, which killed five people and briefly shut down the U.S. Capitol. Privately, FBI officials doubt that such a link exists. They note that the attacks came with an explicit warning -- a letter advising the victims to take penicillin, resulting in a far lower death toll -- but without an explicit claim of responsibility. "It doesn't fit with al-Qaeda's modus operandi," one intelligence official said.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

50 posted on 10/31/2007 2:38:40 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: ZacandPook
Ernest, this is what she thinks, from a November 2005 Larry King interview.

She thinks that al Qaeda is very dangerous and they would use bioweapons against us if given a chance. I think every American probably agrees with her. I certainly do.

But she says NOTHING about her beliefs regarding who sent the anthrax letters in 2001.

The fact that al Qaeda would use anthrax against us if they had the opportunity doesn't mean they were responsible for the anthrax attacks of 2001. You may truly believe they were, but the evidence says otherwise.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

51 posted on 10/31/2007 2:43:38 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: ZacandPook
What probability do you think is it that a 1st grader wrote the letters?

I'd say the probability is about 95%.

You may truly believe otherwise, but your beliefs do not change what the facts say. And the facts are pretty clear.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

52 posted on 10/31/2007 2:45:57 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

MODUS OPERANDI.

Ernest, this was not the first time the Egyptian islamists sent letter bombs to newspaper offices in connection with an attack on the World Trade Center.

     NPR set the scene. It was January 2, 1997, at 9:15 a.m. at the National Press Building in Washington, D.C. The employee of the Saudi-owned newspaper Al Hayat began to open a letter. It was a Christmas card — the kind that plays a musical tune. It was white envelope, five and a half inches by six and a half inches, with a computer-generated address label attached. It had foreign postage and a post mark — a post mark in Alexandria, Egypt. It looked suspiciously bulky, so he set it down and called the police. Minutes later they found a similar envelope. These were the first two of four letter bombs that would arrive at Al Hayat during the day.” A fifth letter bomb addressed to the paper was intercepted at a nearby post office. They all looked the same. Two similar letter bombs addressed to the “parole officer” (a position that does not exist) arrived at the federal penitentiary at Leavenworth. It seemed evident how some Grinch had spent the holidays in Alexandria, Egypt.

   Egyptian Saif Adel (Makawwi), thought to be in Iran, was involved in military planning. Adel was a colonel in the Egyptian Army’s Special Forces before joining Al Qaeda. He helped plan the 1998 attacks on the US embassies in Africa. He was also a planner in the attack on the USS Cole and has served as the liaison officer between Hezbollah and Al Qaeda. Adel assisted Atef, who had overall responsibility for Al Qaeda’s operations. Attorney Al-Zayyat has said, Makkawi had many times claimed responsibility for operations that were carried out inside Egypt but when the perpetrators were arrested, it would be al-Zawahiri’s name whose name they shouted loyalty to from the docks. Some would even say they did not know a person named Makkawi. After the letter al-Hayat letter bombs were sent in January 1997, Saif Adel (Makawwi) gave a statement denying responsibility on behalf of the Vanguards of Conquest. He got admonished by the unnamed but official spokesman for the Vanguards organization — chastising him as not being authorized to speak for the organization (or even being a member).

     On January 7, 1997 Col Muhammad Makkawi purporting to be speaking for the Egyptian Vanguards of Islamic Conquest said: “Those are messages of admonishment. There is no flirtation between us and the Americans in order for us to send them such alarming messages in such a manner.” Makkawi said that “the  Vanguards  of  Conquest  “are heavyweight and would not embark on such childish actions.” US press and political commentaries had hinted at the  Vanguards  of  Conquest  organization’s involvement in these attempts. In his statement to `Al-Hayat, Makkawi added “I am surprised that we in particular, and not other parties, should be accused of such an operation.”

    But then someone else credited with being the Vanguards official spokesman denounced Makkawi’s authority to speak for the group, referring to the January 5th statement it had made denying responsibility. This other claimed spokesman said “We welcome any Muslim who wants to join us, and if Makkawi wants to [join us], he will be welcomed to the Vanguards march, but through the organizational channels. But if words are not coupled with actions, we tell him: Fear God, and you can use a different name other than the Vanguards to speak on its behalf.” The spokesperson for the Vanguards of Conquest was Al-Sirri, based in London.

   The FBI would not speculate as to who sent the letters or why. But this was your classic “duck that walks like a duck” situation. As NPR reported at the time, “analysts say that letter bombs are rarely sent in batches, and when they are it’s generally prompted by politics, not personal animus.” Al Hayat was a well respected and moderate newspaper. It was friendly to moderate Arab countries such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt — just as, say NBC and CBS. That, without more, was accurately discerned by observers at the time as sufficient to make the newspaper outlet a target of the militant islamists. The newspaper, its editor explained, does not avoid criticizing militant islamists. The Al Hayat Editor-in-Chief explained: “We’ve been opposed to all extremists in the Arab world, especially the fundamentalists.” Mohammed Salameh, a central defendant in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, was sent to Leavenworth in 1994. The other three Egyptian extremists convicted in the bombing were sent to prisons in California, Indiana and Colorado. Like the blind sheik, Abdel Rahman, Salameh had complained of his conditions and asked to be avenged. The Blind Sheik was particularly irked that the prison officials did not cut his fingernails.

   Rahman was convicted in 1995 of seditious conspiracy, bombing conspiracy, soliciting an attack on an U.S. military installation, and soliciting the murder of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. His followers were indicted for plotting to bomb bridges, tunnels and landmarks in New York for which Rahman allegedly had given his blessings. The mailing of deadly letters in connection with an earlier attack on the World Trade Center, was not merely the modus operandi of militant islamists, it was the group’s signature — it’s their calling card. Khaled Abu el-Dahab, a naturalized American, from Silicon Valley in a confession detailed in a state security document from Egypt’s defense ministry dated October 28, 1998, explained that he was trained to make booby-trapped letters to send to important people, as well as asked to enroll in American aviation schools to learn how to fly gliders and helicopters. He was a friend of Ali Mohammed, a former special forces officer in the Egyptian army and former US Army Sergeant.

   Al Hayat reporters, editor and owner were not expressing an opinion — though the owner did lay out various possibilities (e.g., Iraq, Iran etc.). The owner of the paper had commanded Saudi forces during the Persian Gulf War, when Bin Laden was so upset about American troops on the Arabian peninsula. Moreover, al Hayat had recently opened up a Bureau in Jerusalem, giving it a dateline of Jerusalem rather than al Quds, which some thought blasphemous. But none of the possibilities would plausibly explain why the letter bomb was sent to Leavensworth where three of the WTC 1993 defendants were imprisoned, including Ramzi Yousef’s lieutenant who had asked that his mistreatment be avenged. (That was the criminal genius who returned to Ryder to reclaim his deposit after blowing up the truck at WTC). Egyptian security officials claimed that said that the letters were sent from outside of Egypt, the stamps were not available in Egypt, and that the postmark was not Alexandria as reported. Whatever the place of mailing, the sender likely was someone who was upset that KSM’s and Ramzi Yousef’s associates had been imprisoned, to include, most notably, the blind sheik. Whoever is responsible for the anthrax mailings, it is a very good bet that they are upset the blind sheik is detained. That should be at the center of any classified profile of the crime.

   On December 31, 1996 Mohammed Youssef was in Egypt — having gone to Egypt months before. The al Hayat letter bombs related to the detention and alleged mistreatment of the blind sheikh and the WTC bombers were sent 10 days earlier — on the Day of Measures. In 2006, he was named as co-defendant with Hassoun, Daher, Padilla and Jayyousi. Youssef was born in Alexandria. Do authorities suspect the “Florida cell” of being involved in the al Hayat letter bombs? Kifah Jayyousi’s “Islam Report” over the years — distributed by Adham Hassoun in Florida and Kassem Daher in Canada — expressed outrage at detention/extradition due to terrorism law and also what he perceived as attacks on his religion by some newspapers. His headlines on the internet groups blazed “Just In! First Muslim Victim of New Terrorism Law!: US Agents Arrest Paralegal Of Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman Without Charge Prepares To Hand Him To Egyptian Regime,” soc.religion.islam, dated April 27, 1996 and “Islam Report (Newspaper Attacks Our Religion! Act Now!,” soc.religion.islam, Apr. 16, 1996

In connection with the January 1997 letter bombs, Ayman got the know-how to send sophisticated electronic letter bombs from Iraqi intelligence according to one item from the highly controversial Feith memo. In the al Hayat letter bombings, Ayman allowed the finger to be pointed at Libya. In the Amerithrax letters, he allowed the finger to be pointed to a United States biodefense insider. Tenet in his May 2007 book included Saif Adel as among “al-Qa’da’s leadership to the group’s highly compartmentalized chemical, biological, and nuclear networks.”

   After the Al Hayat letter bombs to newspapers in DC and NYC and people in symbolic positions, in January 1997, both the Blind Sheikh and his paralegal, Sattar, were quoted in separate articles in Al Hayat (in Arabic) denying that they or their supporters were responsible. The Blind Sheikh commented that al Hayat was fair and balanced in its coverage and his supporters would have no reason to “hit” them. Sattar noted that the bombs were mailed on December 20, one day before the brief in support of the blind sheik on appeal. He questioned whether someone (like the FBI) was trying to undermine the appeal’s prospects. The same sort of counterintuitive theory was raised in connection with the earlier letter bombing of newspapers to DC and New York City and people in symbolic positions. But that time it was Ahmed Abdel Sattar who noted that the bombs were mailed on December 20, 1996 one day before the brief in support of the blind sheik on appeal. He questioned whether someone (like the FBI) was trying to undermine the appeal’s prospects. This time, Mr. Sattar did not need any help making the argument with respect to the anthrax letters — numerous people with political agendas rushed to do it for him.

   In September 2006, in a Sahab Media production called “Knowledge is for acting,” there is a clip in which Al Quds editor Atwan refers to his visit with OBL in 1996 (see his 2006 book The Secret History of al Qaeda) and he says that Bin Laden was planning to attack America “and America prisons in particular.” That was an apparent reference to the Al Hayat letter bombs sent to newspapers and prisons in January 1997. There were recurrent references to Abdel-Rahman in the tape.


53 posted on 10/31/2007 4:58:40 PM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook

Requirement Under Laws Of Jihad Of Warning Before Use of Biochemical Weapons

    “Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors... ,”- says the Koran (2:190) Post office employee and blind sheik spokesman Abdel Sattar, explained in his 2004 trial testimony that in an interview, Mustafa Hamza, who took over from Taha as Islamic Group leader after the Luxor debacle in which in 58 tourists were murdered, was asked how can you explain killing tourists, raiding jewelry stores in such operations. Mustafa Hamza answered in every moment and action, the group starts off by consulting with the righteous Olama. No action is initiated without fatwas from our trusted Olama — meaning scholars in the plural. In other words, before carrying out an operation, they get a fatty. He confirmed that fatwas are important because they are authoritative statements by religious leaders declaring what is and is not Islamically permissible. Sattar had a copy of the book written by former Islamic Group leader Taha justifying the attacks that had been committed, to include Luxor that was uploaded at the website maintained by London-based Vanguards of Conquest publicist Al-Sirri.

    The Koran and hadiths provide extensive guidance on the honorable conduct of warfare. One of the leading non-muslim expert on the subject was Princeton’s Bernard Lewis. For years, Princeton University Middle Eastern history Professor Emeritus Bernard Lewis’ writing on the clash between islam and the west would be translated by the Muslim brotherhood and handed out as pamphlets outside of mosques. After the 1998 “Crusaders” statement by Bin Laden and Zawahiri, Lewis wrote an article “License to Kill, Usama Bin Ladin’s Declaration of Jihad,” in Foreign Affairs: “Obviously, the West must defend itself by whatever means will be effective. But in devising strategies to fight the terrorists, it would surely be useful to understand the forces that drive them.” After 9/11, Lewis, a professor emeritus at Princeton University, admonished the Pentagon Defence Policy Board to consider how much worse the devastation could have been on Sept. 11 if the terrorists had used a weapon of mass destruction —such as Iraq was said to possess. In a September 27, 2001, in an Op Ed in the Wall Street Journal, the 87 year-old historian explained the use of biochemical weapons by Al Qaeda: “the laws of jihad categorically preclude wanton and indiscriminate slaughter. The warriors in the holy war are urged not to harm noncombatants, women and children, ‘unless they attack you first.’ Even such questions as missile and chemical warfare are addressed, the first in relation to mangonels and catapults, the other to the use of poison-tipped arrows and poisoning enemy water supplies. Here the jurists differ— some permit, some restrict, some forbid these forms of warfare. A point on which they insist is the need for a clear declaration of war before beginning hostilities, and for proper warning before resuming hostilities after a truce. As Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman once said in the context of criticizing Sadat’s peace with Israel: “Believers govern according to God’s laws and do not change or replace a single letter or word of them.”

    In an essay “Islam and Terrorism,” Bilal Philips, a key religious mentor of GMU’s microbiology grad Ali Al-Timimi, explained the principles of islamic jurisprudence of islamic warfare:

“Islam opposes any form of indiscriminate violence. The Quran states: “Anyone who has killed another except in retaliation, it is as if he has killed the whole of humankind.” [Quran Surah #32 Verse #5] There are strict rules regulating how war may be conducted. Prophet Muhammad forbade the killing of women, children, and old people and the destruction of Churches and Synagogues or farms. Of course, if women, children or the elderly bear arms they may be killed in self-defense.”

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“Defending Islam and the Muslim community is a primary aspect of the physical jihad which involves taking up arms against an enemy. God states in the Quran “Permission to fight has been given to those who have been attacked because they are wronged. And indeed, Allah is Most Powerful.” [Quran Surah #22 Verse #39] and “Fight in the cause of Allah against those who fight against you, but do not transgress the limits. Indeed Allah does not love transgressors.” [Quran Surah #2 Verse #190]. Muslims are also enjoined to fight against tyranny. The Quran states, “Why shouldn’t you fight in the cause of Allah and for those oppressed because they are weak. Men, women and children who cry out, ‘Our Lord! Rescue us from this town of oppressors’” [Quran Surah #4 Verse #75]”

    As Ali Al Timimi once explained: “Modern warfare did not exist during those times when they wrote those classical books of fiqh.” The old principles therefore must be relied upon to guide the issue in new times.

    Spokesman al-Kuwaiti was giving a plain warning in the Fall 2001 threat letter that claimed — not disclosed until 2006 — that the green light had been given for US -bio attack (1) from folks that were US-based, (2) above suspicion, and (3) with access to US and UK government and intelligence information. “The Truth about the New Crusade: A Ruling on the Killing of Women and Children of the Non-Believers,” by Ramzi bin al-Shibh, argues that “the sanctity of women, children, and the elderly is not absolute” and concludes that “in killing Americans who are ordinarily off limits, Muslims should not exceed four million noncombatants, or render more than ten million of them homeless.” Spokesman Abu Ghaith used the same figure in June 2002 in arguing in favor of the moral right to use biological or chemical weapons.

    A book commemorating the September 11 “raid” was published by Majallat al-Ansar and consisted of four essays. It addresses the importance that any attack comply with the laws of Sharia. “Some people see fit to raise the issue of Islamic principles of warfare. They claim that the raid does not observe those principles and that Sharia errors occurred. Some ‘modern’ legal scholars see the raid as a violation of the Sharia. ..Everyone knows that the groups in the traditionalist mujahid movement are more committed than anyone else to Sharia in their actions. After all, their actions can cost them their dearest possession after their faith — their souls.” While purporting not to want to get entangled in a discussion of the legal technicalities, the author then addressed at length why the attack on the World Trade Center and Pentagon was justified under the laws of sharia.

    Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of CIA counter-terrorist operations, discussed the requirement of warning under the laws of jihad on NPR in connection with the Al Qaeda audiotape by Bin Laden that aired shortly before the November 2004 election. In the case of anthrax, Ayman Zawahiri likely considers that the warning required under the laws of jihad has been given.

    Zawahiri is the grandson of and quite proud of the well-known “Pious Ambassador,” who was President of Cairo University. Dr. Zawahiri is reserving himself a spot in a bad place by reason of his botched analysis of the hadiths and teachings of Mohammed governing warfare (no women, children, noncombatants etc.) The same principles prohibit attacking livestock, crops or wells. Judging by the interpretive texts, it would seem that Al Qaeda and the anthrax mailer has violated the Quran and hadiths by killing noncombatant women and children, and even the aged. It cannot be persuasively argued that those noncombatant women and children and the aged attacked the jihadists first. An infant visiting ABC was infected by the anthrax. Before the military tribunal, KSM says the koran forbids killing children. He noted that warfare is guided by the koran and hadiths. Thus, the harshest judgment may await true believers in another world.

    The head of Egyptian Islamic Group, who approved of Sadat’s assassination and was released after a quarter-century in prison, said of 9/11:

“The killing of businessmen is forbidden by Islamic law and the World Trade Center was all businessmen. The killing of women and children and old people is forbidden by Islamic law and many of those were killed in the building. The killing of Muslims is prohibited by Islamic law and there were more than 600 Muslim men and women in the Trade Center among those killed.

These are innocent and intelligent spirits and Bin Laden and those with him will have to account for them...and God knows.”


54 posted on 10/31/2007 4:59:44 PM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: EdLake

Hmmm... I need to go back and read the section again....thanks....


55 posted on 10/31/2007 6:58:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: EdLake

“[What probability do you think is it that a 1st grader wrote the letters?]
I’d say the probability is about 95%.

You may truly believe otherwise, but your beliefs do not change what the facts say. And the facts are pretty clear.”

Ed, I don’t “truly believe” anything on the issue. If I thought the theory was plausible, I would submit it to a former CIA or FBI or police handwriting analysis for expert opinion, give them 5 handwriting samples of the writing, and ask their opinion. (In the real world, I would seek to give them originals) You failed to do that or at least failed to find any handwriting expert who agreed with you — and only have to agree with you the web poster you stole the idea from 6 years ago.

While there may be many hundreds of million of people who think US-based operatives of Al Qaeda are responsible for the anthrax mailings, there aren’t two people on the planet that I know of who think a 1st grader wrote the letters. And attributing a 95% probability to it and deeming it a FACT, rather than a theory, well, that’s stupid. Really stupid.

Your expertise in posting celebrity pornography pictures — “I know it when I see it” and your keen insight that celebrities rarely pose for twat pictures — does not suddenly make you have a clue on true crime or intelligence analysis. Your 400 “case files” of celebrity pornography simply do not provide relevant experience, just a prior example of massive federal copyright infringement.

The only way you provide worthwhile content is by engaging in massive intentional copyright infringement both on your pornography page and on your Amerithrax page where you have archived many hundreds of articles without paying for a news stream as all those news organizations require. You have no respect for federal law, Ed. You are one of the single greatest violator of federal copyrights on the web today.


56 posted on 11/01/2007 1:41:19 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook

Ed, for example, why do you persist in keeping the nude photographs with Sofia Loren’s head on the body when you know she objects? You are like the pickpocket at the grocery store who keeps doing it until the store owner speaks to him. But the result is that your infringement is intentional and thus warrants punitive damages. Rather than concocting really stupid theories, why don’t you comply with the federal law?

While the theory a 1st grader wrote the letters may be stupid, because the writer of a short letter would have no reason to involve a young child who then might tell someone (like his mom), the theory you are an intentional copyright violator is rock solid and subject to the available documentary evidence.

On your website, you explain:

FROM WWW.MSNBC.COM:
Sept. 21 — Sophia Loren doesn’t want her good name — or her even better body — being exploited on the Internet. The actress, citing “distress, depression, shame, humiliation, embarrassment and shock,” has slapped 76 Internet companies with a lawsuit, alleging that they’re using her name to lure Web surfers to pornographic sites.

“THE DEFENDANTS ... have purported to display nude or semi-nude pictures of Sophia Loren, and some Defendants … have displayed photographs featuring Ms. Loren’s image without permission from Ms. Loren,” according to the suit, filed in a U.S. district court in Indiana.

The actress, who turned 65 on Monday, is asking for a jury trial. Her lawsuit did not specify damage, but asked for — among other things — “damages and motion for permanent injunction.”
...
Loren issued a statement from her home in Geneva: “I am horrified by the disgusting actions of the offending companies.”


57 posted on 11/01/2007 2:05:01 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: EdLake

And as for your unqualified scientific discussion of anthrax and spores, here is
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58 posted on 11/01/2007 2:38:01 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook

http://www.fbi.gov/ipr/

Investigative Programs: Cyber Investigations

Sofia Loren is not obligated to put this warning on copyrighted images to make it true.

“Warning: The unauthorized reproduction or distribution of this copyrighted work is illegal. Criminal copyright infringement, including infringement without monetary gain, is investigated by the FBI and is punishable by up to 5 years in federal prison and a fine of $250,000.”

Ed, rather than call in to the FBI with your stupid 1st Grader wrote the anthrax letters theory, (”it’s a FACT!” “95% certain,etc.”), why don’t you comply with the stern warning they so nicely put on their website about copyright infringement. Your infringement is continuing and intentional.


59 posted on 11/01/2007 3:32:51 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here is Judy addressing the anthrax mailings in September 2007.
2:05, especially beginning
2:41
She says FBI’s “working theory is that American with defense or military experience”

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1099560634834568617&q=%22Judith+Miller%22&total=83&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

For the American with defense or military experience that was subject of FBI’s theory, see Washington Post September 2006 article quoted in the article linked by Ernest and the discussion of Ali Al-Timimi who had a high security clearance for work with the Navy and had access to the facilitites funded by DARPA (to the tune of $13 million in 2001 and adjacent years).


60 posted on 11/01/2007 6:57:20 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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