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New Dem bill removes job magnet for illegals
NumbersUSA ^ | 29 OCT 2007 | Roy Beck

Posted on 10/29/2007 5:06:23 AM PDT by radar101

DEAR OPPONENTS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.... AND SUPPORTERS OF ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT & SELF-DEPORTATION,

Hard on the heels of your tremendous defeat of the DREAM Act amnesty in the Senate last week, we have our best chance yet in this Democratic-controlled Congress for improving enforcement against illegal immigration.

(Some email services failed to deliver my analysis of our amnesty victory, and many of your computer's blocked the analysis from getting into your in-box, we are learning. You can read the analysis at: http://numbersusa.com/actionalerts)

North Carolina Democratic Representative Heath Shuler will soon be introducing a great immigration enforcement bill:

The SAVE ACT (Secure America with Verification and Enforcement)

This bill (it will have no bill number until introduced) is far more than a gesture to show that Shuler is on the side of the American workers.

Congressman Shuler appears to be deadly serious about getting this bill enacted and removing the jobs magnet for illegal immigration. He is moving the ball on this bill a whole lot better than he did as an NFL quarterback, completing passes to fellow Representatives every day as he gets their signature as co-sponsors on the floor of the House.

He is fighting for immigration rationality and the rule of law with the kind of winning confidence he showed in college when he was runnerup for the Heisman Trophy.

NumbersUSA will make its formal endorsement of this bill later today.

We believe this bill with its bi-partisan support but originating on the Democratic side of the House is just the vehicle to give us a chance to actually pass immigration legislation through a Democratic-controlled Congress that would significantly improve the lives of most Americans.

REQUIRES EVERY EMPLOYER TO USE ELECTRONIC VERIFICATION SYSTEM ON EVERY EMPLOYEE

The SAVE Act does a lot of things to protect our borders and to help with interior enforcement. (We'll provide you with a section-by-section analysis as soon as the bill is formally introduced.)

But the section that I applaud the most has to do with workplace verification. We believe that jobs are the main reason illegal aliens come here. Drying them up would seriously slow the flow of new illegal aliens. And it would start to drive perhaps as many as a million already-settled illegal aliens back home each year.

The SAVE Act would eventually require every employee in America to go through the E-Verify system. This internet system provides employers with an inexpensive, quick, and accurate way to verify that employees are not illegal aliens. The rules for use are such that no employee or employer suffers if there is a mistake in the system because there is ample time to correct errors on the employee's side and on the government's side.

The SAVE Act would ...

... require during Year 1 that all government agencies, government contractors, plus all businesses with more than 250 employees run all NEW hires through E-Verify.

... require during Year 2 that all businesses with 100 or more employees use E-Verify for new hires.

... require during Year 3 that all businesses with more than 20 employees use E-Verify for new hires.

... during Year 4 add businesses with fewer than 20 employees so that all businesses use E-Verify for new hires.

... also during Year 4 require all businessese to run all their previous hires through E-Verify.

The four-year phase-in is to give the government more room for massive expansion of its current system. It also allows the government to work out kinks before it is required for use by small businesses which often lack the personnel to easily deal with new procedures.

During the first three years, new illegal aliens and currently settled ones who lose their jobs will find fewer and fewer places where they can seek work.

But during those first three years, current illegal aliens who stayed in the same job would not be affected by the expanding use of E-Verify.

In the fourth year, however, all of those illegal workers would be run through E-Verify. If their Social Security number, name and a couple more details didn't match -- and they had no excuse -- they would lose their jobs.

NumbersUSA has always maintained that very few businesses actually want to hire illegal aliens. And we believe that of the minority of businesses that do hire illegal aliens, most do so without knowing it or do so because they feel forced to do it to keep from being run out of business by competitors who ARE hiring illegal aliens.

If we give businesses a tool they can rely on, and assure them that their competitors won't get by with hiring illegals, very few illegal aliens will get hired anywhere.

There aren't enough odd-jobs and off-the-books jobs in the underground economy to soak up the estimated 7 million illegal workers in the country. Most illegal aliens will no longer find enough work to support them and their dependents, and most of them will eventually give up their lives of illegality and go home -- ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT & SELF-DEPORTATION.

FIRST-TIME PROVISIONS TO CATCH ILLEGAL ALIENS USING IDENTITY THEFT

All of us inside and outside government who have lauded E-Verify under its different names the last decade have acknowledged that it doesn't identify all illegal aliens.

It works with the majority of illegal aliens who are making up Social Security numbers and names when they apply for a job.

But if an illegal alien has paid the money to steal the identity of an American, or a legally present foreign national, E-Verify passes them through.

The Shuler bill is the first to address this problem and solve it.

It creates a system of detecting when the same identity is being used to hold down more jobs than are credible. In some cases, the same identity is being used by hundreds of people in hundreds of workplaces. The Shuler bill creates a notification system that roots out this fraud. We'll describe this in more detail in a later alert.

A CHANCE FOR HOUSE DEMOCRATS TO STAND ON SIDE OF AMERICAN WORKERS -- AND AGAINST OUTLAW COMPANIES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS

We are ecstatic to see so many Democrats considering signing on to the toughest workplace verification language ever proposed in Congress.

In the Senate, the Democrats are overwhelmingly leaders for open borders and providing unscrupulous businesses with massive flows of foreign labor. But Shuler is out to prove that Democrats in the U.S. House stand by American workers.

I'm making such a big deal about this bill because many commentators since Democrats took control of Congress last November have said it will be impossible to move an enforcement-only bill any sooner than 2009.

If we are to have any chance at all, the vehicle must be a Democratic vehicle. The SAVE Act is.

But we need your help to push your Democratic Representative (if you have one) to sign up. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could persuade 50 Democrats to be original co-sponsors of this bill?

WILL REPUBLICANS PUT THE PUBLIC GOOD AHEAD OF PARTISAN PARTY POLITICS?

The success of this Democratic-led bill will be dependent upon Republicans massively joining it as well.

If you have a Republican Representative, will he/she be willing to sign onto a Democratic originated bill?

We need your help to push Republicans to set partisanship aside and help move this bill to a vote on the House floor.

WATCH FOR FAX ALERTS -- MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS

We'll be putting up a fax that provides what your own U.S. Representative needs to hear right now regarding the Shuler bill.

Please watch for an Alert from us that will provide a link to that fax.

You may want to go ahead and make a phone call to your Representative today and ask him/her to please co-sponsor Heath Shuler's SAVE Act to take away the job magnet for illegal immigration.

PHONE THE CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD AT: 202-224-3121

For your call to your own Representative today, just have a short, low-key conversation.

Tell him/her about how excited you are to hear an outline of the SAVE Act and how important it is for Congress to take away the jobs magnet for illegal immigration. And ask him/her to call Rep. Shuler's office to ask about signing the bill as an original co-sponsor.

The fact is that the only way Democratic Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California will allow an enforcement bill to come to a vote is if she is under pressure from scores of Democrats having signed on to co-sponsor this legislation.

We proved we are strong enough to stop amnesties repeatedly this year.

But can we prove we are strong enough to pass something that actually improves life in the United States?

OTHER ITEMS IN THE BILL

Here are some other things the SAVE Act would do:

Increases Customs and Border Patrol agents by 8,000, utilizes new technology and fencing to secure the border, and expands specialized enforcement programs, such as the “Tunnel Task Force”

Outlines provisions for recruitment of new agents and personnel through bonuses, student loan repayments, and other financial incentives

Creates a pilot program to increase aerial surveillance, satellite, and equipment sharing between the Department of Homeland Security and the Dept. of Defense to reduce costs and save taxpayer money

Increases investigative abilities of ICE by employing more agents and increasing cooperation between ICE and state and local law enforcement, including sharing personnel, information, and equipment

Creates new infrastructure for the detention, processing and removal of illegal aliens by increasing detention facility capacity, and streamlining judicial processes

Implements a targeted media campaign to inform illegal aliens of new laws and penalties, while also informing employers of penalties for hiring illegal immigrants

THANKS FOR PUTTING SOME OOMPH INTO THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY,


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 110th; aliens; congress; immigrantlist; immigration; saveact; shuler
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1 posted on 10/29/2007 5:06:25 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

will this be another bill upon which the Congress votes, without actually reading?


2 posted on 10/29/2007 5:08:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: radar101

I’ve been too busy to FReep this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do. Lawn work, landscaping, painting, etc.

Time to change my tag line.


3 posted on 10/29/2007 5:11:28 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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To: radar101

What’s the catch ? There’s got to be a catch, I doubt a Dem would introduce a bill like that with the big possibility of being called a ‘racist’.


4 posted on 10/29/2007 5:13:35 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: radar101

The Pelosians will never allow a vote................


5 posted on 10/29/2007 5:13:46 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: radar101
I can simplify this legislation:

20 years in prison (no parole) for any employer that knowingly hires an illegal....BTW....execute the illegal.

Word would run through the community like a wild fire...

6 posted on 10/29/2007 5:16:48 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: radar101
"The success of this Democratic-led bill will be dependent upon Republicans massively joining it as well."

In other words, the Dems aren't actually planning to vote for it. I give this bill a snow-ball's chance in Hell of passing.

7 posted on 10/29/2007 5:17:03 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: radar101

“There aren’t enough odd-jobs and off-the-books jobs in the underground economy to soak up the estimated 7 million illegal workers in the country.”

Since this is the “underground economy,” I doubt the author has any way to back up this claim.


8 posted on 10/29/2007 5:17:05 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: farlander

My first thoughts too. This has to be total BS. No breathing RAT can be trusted with this issue.


9 posted on 10/29/2007 5:18:02 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Diogenesis

Isn’t Schuler one of the newly elected “Blue Dog” democrats? Anyway, if this bill is as good as it sounds and can actually get passed, I wouldn’t care if Ted Kennedy sponsored it.

The main obstacle might be Bush!!:(


10 posted on 10/29/2007 5:21:05 AM PDT by USArmySpouse
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To: radar101

Take a cold shower Roy. This is just show business by shuler to save his own butt. plastic face will allow the so called “blue rats” to introduce all kinds of conservative SOUNDING bills, but she will NEVER allow them to get to a vote.


11 posted on 10/29/2007 5:23:10 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: farlander
What’s the catch ?

believing in nonsense like this.."SELF-DEPORTATION"..

12 posted on 10/29/2007 5:25:12 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: farlander
What’s the catch ?

It's another government operation. No one expects government operations to accomplish anything. Sometime during the four years this is supposed to help we will hear that we need a "comprehensive" program to make this work.

13 posted on 10/29/2007 5:36:05 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: radar101

What happens to employers who do not fire illegals? As I quickly scanned this article, I did not see the provision for employer sanctions.

In Arizona, starting in 2008, an employer who doesn’t use this electronic verification system for new hires will have his business license suspended for 10 days. The second infraction = permanent revocation.


14 posted on 10/29/2007 5:45:17 AM PDT by Molly K.
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To: USArmySpouse

Yes he is. As a NC voter, I cringe with doubt. Just a smoke screen bill because NC is heavily infiltrated with Mexicans working tobacco farms, especially WNC, Shuler’s home area. My BS meter is pegged.


15 posted on 10/29/2007 5:50:21 AM PDT by momincombatboots (World changing power in the blood)
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To: farlander
"What's the catch?"

The first catch is that Shuler knows the bill can't pass. While there is wide support for more internal enforcement/employee verification, there is going to be opposition because it is not comprehensive. Recall that there were many who voted against the recent Dream Act legislation, because it wasn't comprehensive, even tho they supported the Dream act.

The second catch is that Shuler has not included the linking of Real ID to employee verification. He has also not mentioned the merging of the SS and DHS databases.

16 posted on 10/29/2007 5:50:36 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: cbkaty

“20 years in prison (no parole) for any employer that knowingly hires an illegal....BTW....execute the illegal.”

The kind of good old-fashioned justice we haven’t seen in 60 years or so.


17 posted on 10/29/2007 5:55:08 AM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: radar101

Looky there.. Dems moving to the right of Republicans... must be the election season... Any time the Republicans are left enough for Democrats to move to the right of them, the Democrats take the win.


18 posted on 10/29/2007 6:02:38 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: radar101

Pass another law, spend a BUNCH of money for “enforcement” and very little result. Sounds like a dimmocrat proposal!

Verifying eligibility and successfully prosecuting the offenders is a totally different thing. Many, many jobs today are filled by these illegals who will never be identified simply because their “employers” will not attempt to identify them. Whole communities of these illegals have “off the books” jobs that will never go away until the employers are identified and severely punished. This “law” won’t change the employers of these “little” enterprises. Literally millions of these illegals are employed by these “cash paid daily” employers who actually employ less than 10 people a day - and never report (pay) taxes or employee earnings. Arresting and successfully prosecuting an employer who has employed the services of 3 or 4 people illegally is too expensive and the successful arresting agency head doesn’t get his name in the paper or on TV and our courts can’t handle the backlog they have today. The law enforcement personnel will be “overworked” watching the large employers and will simply be screaming every year for “more money” to add enforcement personnel (which they never do even after they get the money).


19 posted on 10/29/2007 6:04:37 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: radar101
North Carolina Democratic Representative Heath Shuler will soon be introducing a great immigration enforcement bill:

Don't tell me; Shuler is getting the idea that his constituents are getting tired of him having his nose so far up Pelosi's (insert favorite orifice name here) that he figures he has to do something to make it look like he's not a complete socialist toady.

20 posted on 10/29/2007 6:16:51 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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