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1 posted on 10/29/2007 5:06:25 AM PDT by radar101
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will this be another bill upon which the Congress votes, without actually reading?


2 posted on 10/29/2007 5:08:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: radar101

I’ve been too busy to FReep this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do. Lawn work, landscaping, painting, etc.

Time to change my tag line.


3 posted on 10/29/2007 5:11:28 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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What’s the catch ? There’s got to be a catch, I doubt a Dem would introduce a bill like that with the big possibility of being called a ‘racist’.


4 posted on 10/29/2007 5:13:35 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: radar101

The Pelosians will never allow a vote................


5 posted on 10/29/2007 5:13:46 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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I can simplify this legislation:

20 years in prison (no parole) for any employer that knowingly hires an illegal....BTW....execute the illegal.

Word would run through the community like a wild fire...

6 posted on 10/29/2007 5:16:48 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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"The success of this Democratic-led bill will be dependent upon Republicans massively joining it as well."

In other words, the Dems aren't actually planning to vote for it. I give this bill a snow-ball's chance in Hell of passing.

7 posted on 10/29/2007 5:17:03 AM PDT by Brilliant
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“There aren’t enough odd-jobs and off-the-books jobs in the underground economy to soak up the estimated 7 million illegal workers in the country.”

Since this is the “underground economy,” I doubt the author has any way to back up this claim.


8 posted on 10/29/2007 5:17:05 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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Take a cold shower Roy. This is just show business by shuler to save his own butt. plastic face will allow the so called “blue rats” to introduce all kinds of conservative SOUNDING bills, but she will NEVER allow them to get to a vote.


11 posted on 10/29/2007 5:23:10 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: radar101

What happens to employers who do not fire illegals? As I quickly scanned this article, I did not see the provision for employer sanctions.

In Arizona, starting in 2008, an employer who doesn’t use this electronic verification system for new hires will have his business license suspended for 10 days. The second infraction = permanent revocation.


14 posted on 10/29/2007 5:45:17 AM PDT by Molly K.
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Looky there.. Dems moving to the right of Republicans... must be the election season... Any time the Republicans are left enough for Democrats to move to the right of them, the Democrats take the win.


18 posted on 10/29/2007 6:02:38 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: radar101

Pass another law, spend a BUNCH of money for “enforcement” and very little result. Sounds like a dimmocrat proposal!

Verifying eligibility and successfully prosecuting the offenders is a totally different thing. Many, many jobs today are filled by these illegals who will never be identified simply because their “employers” will not attempt to identify them. Whole communities of these illegals have “off the books” jobs that will never go away until the employers are identified and severely punished. This “law” won’t change the employers of these “little” enterprises. Literally millions of these illegals are employed by these “cash paid daily” employers who actually employ less than 10 people a day - and never report (pay) taxes or employee earnings. Arresting and successfully prosecuting an employer who has employed the services of 3 or 4 people illegally is too expensive and the successful arresting agency head doesn’t get his name in the paper or on TV and our courts can’t handle the backlog they have today. The law enforcement personnel will be “overworked” watching the large employers and will simply be screaming every year for “more money” to add enforcement personnel (which they never do even after they get the money).


19 posted on 10/29/2007 6:04:37 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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North Carolina Democratic Representative Heath Shuler will soon be introducing a great immigration enforcement bill:

Don't tell me; Shuler is getting the idea that his constituents are getting tired of him having his nose so far up Pelosi's (insert favorite orifice name here) that he figures he has to do something to make it look like he's not a complete socialist toady.

20 posted on 10/29/2007 6:16:51 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Ping.
21 posted on 10/29/2007 6:46:56 AM PDT by upchuck (Hildabeaste as Prez... unimaginable, devastating misery! She will redefine "How bad can it get?")
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To: radar101

My only fear is that the Dems will use this as political cover before the 2008 elections in much the same way that they used the Fence Act in 2006 just before the mid-terms. Even Hillary signed on to the Fence Act.


22 posted on 10/29/2007 6:52:37 AM PDT by kabar
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The catch is, Shuler has voted for all the other lousy immigration bills which have come up. He believes in this bill like he believes in Truth, Justice, and The American Way. His record so far is following - oh, so closely - with his nose buried well up Pelosi's butt crack.

This is window dressing for his next election to get on the "right side" of this explosive issue. It will never even get out of committee and he knows it. But, he can tout it from the rooftops all through the next election to confuse his hopping mad constituents and those who aren't paying attention.

He surmises it's his ticket to reelection in 2008.

24 posted on 10/29/2007 6:58:43 AM PDT by Gritty (All Americans must vote Democrat - Jihad Jaara, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade)
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To: radar101; Congressman Billybob

Shuler is the guy our own Congressman Billybob (John Armor) is hoping to run against next year.


25 posted on 10/29/2007 7:13:16 AM PDT by Tenniel2 (Borders, language, culture. In that order.)
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First step to solving problem. Treat them like citizens.

Require W-4s and Pay by Check with all tax deductions. Employer paid social security filings.


26 posted on 10/29/2007 7:14:12 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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But during those first three years, current illegal aliens who stayed in the same job would not be affected by the expanding use of E-Verify.

Get the Vaseline out! The demorats are about to try amnesty by a different name.

27 posted on 10/29/2007 7:15:46 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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Creates a pilot program to increase aerial surveillance, satellite, and equipment sharing between the Department of Homeland Security and the Dept. of Defense to reduce costs and save taxpayer money

I smell no fence.

29 posted on 10/29/2007 7:23:25 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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This is all B.S.. It has been my experience that the SS# that are used by illegals match the name that they are using at the time. My friend, Jackie Rodriguez has been trying to stop an illegal from using her SS# for almost fifteen years. She lives in WA State and the man who uses her name and SS lives near San Francisco and works in a furniture factory. Every year, they have to explain to the IRS why they shouldn’t have to pay taxes on this man’s earnings.


30 posted on 10/29/2007 7:23:28 AM PDT by Eva
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