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Giuliani is GOP's best shot against Hillary, said Ford
NY Daily News ^

Posted on 10/28/2007 8:37:21 AM PDT by Sadecki

Jerry Ford wasn't sure Hillary Clinton could be elected President, but he was absolutely certain which Republican had the strongest shot at stopping her: Rudy Giuliani.

"That would be a great contest between Hillary and Rudy," the 92-year-old former President told a reporter in May 2006.

"I think Giuliani is an electrifying guy," he added. "He's a great speaker. He's had a good record of winning in New York City, and he can be tough."

Ford had gotten to know the former mayor at various political and corporate events over the years - both were members of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation, for example - and often spoke admiringly of Giuliani's performance in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.

He thought so highly of Giuliani, in fact, that when speculating in 2004 about potential replacements for Vice President Cheney in the unlikely event President Bush decided to make a change, Ford put Giuliani at the top of his list.

Officially, he remained scrupulously neutral in the 2008 GOP primary contest. A few months before his death in December 2006, however, Ford was asked by an old friend to predict who the Republican nominee would be.

He smiled and replied: "Well, if they want to win, Giuliani. He's really good, he's articulate - he's just a leader."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; antigun; ford; giuliani; hillary; jerryford; liberal; proabortion; rinorudy; rudy
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Nominate Giuliani and I stay home on election day.

But don't you understand? A leftist, anti-gun, anti-life, pro-gay cross-dresser is our best chance for beating a leftist, anti-gun, anti-life, pro-gay cross-dresser! You principled people really get me angry.
101 posted on 10/28/2007 10:23:26 AM PDT by farmer18th
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

First of all. You are in no position to call anyone a RINO since by your own admission are not even a Republican. What did you say the other day — you have “disdain” for republicans.

So why should us real republicans listen to anything you have to say?

That said, the reason that conservatives are being “punished” is because they are not trusted anymore. So much pork, so much hypocrisy has taught us republicans that the Conservatives have dropped the ball.

I trust a moderate Republican with a strong track record of lowering taxes, and success fighting for his constituents tooth and nail to live up to his promises about appointing Roberts-like supreme court, lowering taxes, keeping america safe, and fighting the war on terror a lot more then I do someone who calls themselves a traditional conservative at this point.

In fact, I can’t even listen to people like Pat Buchanan anymore without gagging.


102 posted on 10/28/2007 10:31:38 AM PDT by Sadecki ("Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; All

you guys are nothing else if not zealous.


103 posted on 10/28/2007 10:32:48 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (keep the heat on the hillary.)
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To: Racehorse
Oh, I think chemo-therapy might have had a little to do with it.

Wrong. Rudy never had chemo therapy.

Giuliani had radioactive seed implantation on September 15, 2000 and was up on his feet in a day. There was no chemo. He missed a day or two of work and within a week he had marched in a parade, presided over a town hall-style meeting, gone on the stump for Lazio, and conducted daily press conferences, including one pushing a $1 Billion taxpayer subsidized stadium in Manhattan's West Side after holding meetings with both the Yankees and Jets owners that week.

Back in May, 2000, when he dropped out a mere 11 days before the State Convention where he was to be nominated, leaving the GOP high and dry (with no other choice but to recruit Lazio), the doctors said they thought campaigning was perfectly within his physical capabilities and, if he started treatment right way, he would have recovered and been "full speed" by the time the campaign normally kicked in. He delayed that procedure until September and went about his mayoral duties as usual.

104 posted on 10/28/2007 10:32:59 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sadecki
"That would be a great contest between Hillary and Rudy," the 92-year-old former President told a reporter in May 2006. "I think Giuliani is an electrifying guy," he added. "He's a great speaker. He's had a good record of winning in New York City, and he can be tough."

Ford talks about it like it was a football game or an episode of American Idol. About as intellectually deep as he ever was. Unfortunately much of America elects its representatives on such shallow bases.

105 posted on 10/28/2007 10:33:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

well, I agree with that.

I wouldn’t be surprised if rudy doesn’t get the nomination, it will be because he rooted for the red sox in the World series.


106 posted on 10/28/2007 10:36:07 AM PDT by Sadecki ("Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence)
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To: calcowgirl

Rudy has all along left the impression of being scared of facing Hillary. And he is weak on WOT - he does not get it.


107 posted on 10/28/2007 10:37:01 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Sadecki
When you consider President Gerald Ford's two claims to fame . . .

1. He was never elected to the White House; and

2. He lost to Jimmy Carter . . .

I'd say this is just about the worst endorsement any candidate could possibly get.

108 posted on 10/28/2007 10:37:28 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
This is one of the truest and most logical posts that I have ever seen on Freerepublic!

Unfortunately, it will go right over the heads of most if not all of the Ruby bashers.

Even with your totally accurate conciseness, there are none so blind as those that refuse to see.

109 posted on 10/28/2007 10:38:17 AM PDT by top 2 toe red (If it were raining dollars from heaven, some people would complain & whine about all the littering.)
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To: Sadecki

I hope he doesn’t.


110 posted on 10/28/2007 10:38:27 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Sadecki

Great post and I agree 100%

John


111 posted on 10/28/2007 10:38:53 AM PDT by Diggity
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To: Alberta's Child

Ford was about the best human being to ever sit in the white house. He knew that by pardoning Nixon he would never be president. He did it anyway because true leaders look at the common good and not what is in their own best interests.

Maybe you can stay home and go fishing or hunting on election day and get ready to enjoy 8 years of Hillary.

John


112 posted on 10/28/2007 10:42:10 AM PDT by Diggity
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To: Sadecki
First of all. You are in no position to call anyone a RINO since by your own admission are not even a Republican. What did you say the other day — you have “disdain” for republicans.

I support conservatives and libertarians; I don't march in lockstep to the national party. The RNC does not represent me. I support individual candidates only.

So why should us real republicans listen to anything you have to say?

Because we're your BASE, ya doorknob. Start running candidates who are conservatives and we'll support you. If you don't, we're going to vote 3rd party or stay home. Simple ain't it?

That said, the reason that conservatives are being “punished” is because they are not trusted anymore. So much pork, so much hypocrisy has taught us republicans that the Conservatives have dropped the ball.

Only RINOs have been "punished" because they completely abandoned conservative principles. The remaining conservative Republicans are being marginalized by the elites who want the GOP to be big-tent moderates and follow the same losing strategy that's failed to doom since Wendell Wilkie.

I trust a moderate Republican with a strong track record of lowering taxes, and success fighting for his constituents tooth and nail to live up to his promises about appointing Roberts-like supreme court, lowering taxes, keeping america safe, and fighting the war on terror a lot more then I do someone who calls themselves a traditional conservative at this point.

Rudy's tax cuts in NYC were marginal, I trust Bill Clinton before I trust Rudy's promise on nominating conservative justices to SCOTUS. All those points don't describe Rudy, and he's been compromised by his social liberalism and flawed personal life anyway. You can't be a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, & vice-versa.

In fact, I can’t even listen to people like Pat Buchanan anymore without gagging.

Yeah but it was Buchanan who put the fear into Bush Sr. and Bob Dole, and even gave Bush II a scare in FL. Stop trying to be Dem-lites and just be conservatives, and you won't have to deal with this dilemma every election season, sheesh.

113 posted on 10/28/2007 10:48:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: the invisib1e hand
you guys are nothing else if not zealous.

Why do you want to promote a fascist pro-abortionist liberal Republican and believe that he can only beat Hillary? Rudy himself has stated that his positions are similar to Clinton's. No conservative in their right state of mind is going to support him. That's just a simple, undeniable fact.

114 posted on 10/28/2007 10:50:33 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Diggity
Maybe you can stay home and go fishing or hunting on election day and get ready to enjoy 8 years of Hillary.

Sounds like a plan. Deer hunting season kicks in around that time anyway.

115 posted on 10/28/2007 10:54:18 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: top 2 toe red
This is one of the truest and most logical posts that I have ever seen on Freerepublic!

Which part did you like the best? The race baiting?

116 posted on 10/28/2007 10:57:01 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Diggity
He knew that by pardoning Nixon he would never be president.

If this is true, then he was also the most grossly irresponsible person ever to sit in the White House. If he really believed this, then he had no business running for re-election in 1976 at all.

So either you're full of crap, or you've offered some additional evidence to support the point I made.

I ain't sitting home or going fishing on Election Day next year. But I ain't voting for a totalitarian leftist (from either political party) under any circumstances, either.

117 posted on 10/28/2007 10:58:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Is anyone surprised by this? Ford was part of the old Rockefeller wing of the GOP.

Exactly. This is "news"????? Ford was the last pro-baby death GOP POTUS. I needed a news article to tell me that he would support Giuliani?

118 posted on 10/28/2007 11:04:04 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: calcowgirl
Giuliani had radioactive seed implantation on September 15, 2000 and was up on his feet in a day. There was no chemo.

Yep. Turns out you're right. Brachytherapy did the trick for him. Sorry to take so long to reply back, but it took me this long to confirm that, yep, you're right.

Thanks for the corrective surgery (instruction). :-)

. . . the doctors said they thought campaigning was perfectly within his physical capabilities and, if he started treatment right way, he would have recovered and been "full speed" by the time the campaign normally kicked in. He delayed that procedure until September and went about his mayoral duties as usual.

So, why do you attribute his withdrawal to spinelessness? I just don't see it.

119 posted on 10/28/2007 11:13:31 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Because we're your BASE, ya doorknob

No. You are not. The republican base consists of people who are actually members of the Republican party. If you eventually choose to support the GOP candidate, that's fine. But frankly until you join the GOP, your comments about my party should be ignored and dismissed -- they might as well be coming from a liberal or democrat. Because liberals, democrats and yourself have a lot more in common with each other then with me -- that's because I belong to the GOP, and you and they do not.

Only RINOs have been "punished" because they completely abandoned conservative principles.

Again, who are you to call anyone a RINO when you are not even a republican. That's hilarious. But if by RINO, you mean moderates, then I think moderates are doing just fine. We have a moderate in the White House, and the 2 leading republicans to be candidate for President are moderate as well.

All those points don't describe Rudy, and he's been compromised by his social liberalism and flawed personal life anyway. You can't be a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, & vice-versa.

Wow, you do sound just like the liberals and democrats now. of course you can be fiscally conservative and socially moderate as Rudy is. And to call him a "liberal" on issues like abortion or gay rights goes too far.

"As any New Yorker can tell you, the last word anyone in the 1990s would have attached to the brash, furniture- breaking mayor was "liberal" -- and the second-to-last was "moderate." With his take-many-prisoners approach to crime and his unerring pro-police instincts, the prosecutor-turned-proconsul made his mark on the city not by embracing its social liberalism but by trying to crush it." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/26/AR2007102601808.html
120 posted on 10/28/2007 11:15:20 AM PDT by Sadecki ("Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence)
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