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To: Sadecki
First of all. You are in no position to call anyone a RINO since by your own admission are not even a Republican. What did you say the other day — you have “disdain” for republicans.

I support conservatives and libertarians; I don't march in lockstep to the national party. The RNC does not represent me. I support individual candidates only.

So why should us real republicans listen to anything you have to say?

Because we're your BASE, ya doorknob. Start running candidates who are conservatives and we'll support you. If you don't, we're going to vote 3rd party or stay home. Simple ain't it?

That said, the reason that conservatives are being “punished” is because they are not trusted anymore. So much pork, so much hypocrisy has taught us republicans that the Conservatives have dropped the ball.

Only RINOs have been "punished" because they completely abandoned conservative principles. The remaining conservative Republicans are being marginalized by the elites who want the GOP to be big-tent moderates and follow the same losing strategy that's failed to doom since Wendell Wilkie.

I trust a moderate Republican with a strong track record of lowering taxes, and success fighting for his constituents tooth and nail to live up to his promises about appointing Roberts-like supreme court, lowering taxes, keeping america safe, and fighting the war on terror a lot more then I do someone who calls themselves a traditional conservative at this point.

Rudy's tax cuts in NYC were marginal, I trust Bill Clinton before I trust Rudy's promise on nominating conservative justices to SCOTUS. All those points don't describe Rudy, and he's been compromised by his social liberalism and flawed personal life anyway. You can't be a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, & vice-versa.

In fact, I can’t even listen to people like Pat Buchanan anymore without gagging.

Yeah but it was Buchanan who put the fear into Bush Sr. and Bob Dole, and even gave Bush II a scare in FL. Stop trying to be Dem-lites and just be conservatives, and you won't have to deal with this dilemma every election season, sheesh.

113 posted on 10/28/2007 10:48:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Because we're your BASE, ya doorknob

No. You are not. The republican base consists of people who are actually members of the Republican party. If you eventually choose to support the GOP candidate, that's fine. But frankly until you join the GOP, your comments about my party should be ignored and dismissed -- they might as well be coming from a liberal or democrat. Because liberals, democrats and yourself have a lot more in common with each other then with me -- that's because I belong to the GOP, and you and they do not.

Only RINOs have been "punished" because they completely abandoned conservative principles.

Again, who are you to call anyone a RINO when you are not even a republican. That's hilarious. But if by RINO, you mean moderates, then I think moderates are doing just fine. We have a moderate in the White House, and the 2 leading republicans to be candidate for President are moderate as well.

All those points don't describe Rudy, and he's been compromised by his social liberalism and flawed personal life anyway. You can't be a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, & vice-versa.

Wow, you do sound just like the liberals and democrats now. of course you can be fiscally conservative and socially moderate as Rudy is. And to call him a "liberal" on issues like abortion or gay rights goes too far.

"As any New Yorker can tell you, the last word anyone in the 1990s would have attached to the brash, furniture- breaking mayor was "liberal" -- and the second-to-last was "moderate." With his take-many-prisoners approach to crime and his unerring pro-police instincts, the prosecutor-turned-proconsul made his mark on the city not by embracing its social liberalism but by trying to crush it." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/26/AR2007102601808.html
120 posted on 10/28/2007 11:15:20 AM PDT by Sadecki ("Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence)
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