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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

First of all. You are in no position to call anyone a RINO since by your own admission are not even a Republican. What did you say the other day — you have “disdain” for republicans.

So why should us real republicans listen to anything you have to say?

That said, the reason that conservatives are being “punished” is because they are not trusted anymore. So much pork, so much hypocrisy has taught us republicans that the Conservatives have dropped the ball.

I trust a moderate Republican with a strong track record of lowering taxes, and success fighting for his constituents tooth and nail to live up to his promises about appointing Roberts-like supreme court, lowering taxes, keeping america safe, and fighting the war on terror a lot more then I do someone who calls themselves a traditional conservative at this point.

In fact, I can’t even listen to people like Pat Buchanan anymore without gagging.


102 posted on 10/28/2007 10:31:38 AM PDT by Sadecki ("Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence)
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To: Sadecki
First of all. You are in no position to call anyone a RINO since by your own admission are not even a Republican. What did you say the other day — you have “disdain” for republicans.

I support conservatives and libertarians; I don't march in lockstep to the national party. The RNC does not represent me. I support individual candidates only.

So why should us real republicans listen to anything you have to say?

Because we're your BASE, ya doorknob. Start running candidates who are conservatives and we'll support you. If you don't, we're going to vote 3rd party or stay home. Simple ain't it?

That said, the reason that conservatives are being “punished” is because they are not trusted anymore. So much pork, so much hypocrisy has taught us republicans that the Conservatives have dropped the ball.

Only RINOs have been "punished" because they completely abandoned conservative principles. The remaining conservative Republicans are being marginalized by the elites who want the GOP to be big-tent moderates and follow the same losing strategy that's failed to doom since Wendell Wilkie.

I trust a moderate Republican with a strong track record of lowering taxes, and success fighting for his constituents tooth and nail to live up to his promises about appointing Roberts-like supreme court, lowering taxes, keeping america safe, and fighting the war on terror a lot more then I do someone who calls themselves a traditional conservative at this point.

Rudy's tax cuts in NYC were marginal, I trust Bill Clinton before I trust Rudy's promise on nominating conservative justices to SCOTUS. All those points don't describe Rudy, and he's been compromised by his social liberalism and flawed personal life anyway. You can't be a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, & vice-versa.

In fact, I can’t even listen to people like Pat Buchanan anymore without gagging.

Yeah but it was Buchanan who put the fear into Bush Sr. and Bob Dole, and even gave Bush II a scare in FL. Stop trying to be Dem-lites and just be conservatives, and you won't have to deal with this dilemma every election season, sheesh.

113 posted on 10/28/2007 10:48:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Sadecki
"In fact, I can’t even listen to people like Pat Buchanan anymore without gagging."

What is it you don't like? Pat's anti-abortion position, his anti-illegal immigration views? Pat's trade deal with China is hurting American jobs? His foreign entangling opposition will bring war to our shore? Then again maybe you think we should be the world's policeman and die to bring democracy to the world, Pat doesn't.

156 posted on 10/28/2007 1:23:52 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Sadecki
fighting for his constituents tooth and nail to live up to his promises about appointing Roberts-like supreme court

Why on earth would you think a man with as little character as Giuliani would do that anymore than Bill Clinton would follow through and push for a middle-class tax cut?

Giuliani has a liberal Republican who appointed liberal judges by an 8-1 ratio in New York, has praised Ruth Bader Ginsburg and who has stated a strict constructionalist could vote to uphold Roe. He is a man of no character who was alienating his kids by parading his mistress around New York. And, he has flip-flopped on at least half-a-dozen issues already.

Believing a liberal is something other than a liberal isn't going to make it true.

187 posted on 10/28/2007 8:38:10 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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