Posted on 10/21/2007 11:38:01 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
I am going to post just a small review of my night with 23 Republicans at the Fox News Orlando Republican Presidential Debate.
Luntz was angry early on before camera's went live when he polled the group to make sure everyone there was undecided. A 21 yr old guy raised his hand and said he was supporting Ron Paul. Luntz absolutely lost it on this kid and said "Why in the hell did you not put that on your questionaire that was e-mailed to you? Why does it not shock me that a Ron Paul supporter would pull this kind of crap?"
"If someone else shows up you are being replaced and out of here...this room is for undecided."
I was originally placed in the second row towards the end of the row next to a man named Fred Hawkins Jr. who is running for Osceola County Commissioner. Luntz asked us a bunch of questions with a camera crew and producers in tow behind him and I was the first to answer. I was the first person to use the word "socialism" and it spread like wild fire.
I said the concept of America voting a socialist like Hillary Clinton as President should be motivation enough for Republicans to get their act together. I reminded Luntz of the Hillary quote saying "This is the same woman who is quoted by the San Francisco Chronicle saying "We will have to take things away for the common good." Luntz had this smirk on his face and he knew I handed him gold.
After 3 segments it was time to go live. By the time you saw what you did at home we had already gone through 3 rounds of questions and I was lighting up the joint with what I call the biggest crisis this campaign.
What do any of these men who are running for President plan on doing to combat the extreme hatred of anyone who is a Republican by the mainstream media and how bad the liberal blogs, Soros, and just about everyone who has some sort of journalistic power slimes Republicans on a daily basis. Who is going to have the spine to stand up to it and how do they plan on doing it when the Bush Administration has been knocked out time and time again with no fight.
WHO IS GOING TO PREVENT THE PERCEPTION THAT REPUBLICANS ARE NOT WAR MONGERING NAZI'S WHO ARE OUT FOR OIL COMPANIES AND THE RICH?
Luntz definitely told us through his polling and research that as of today Hillary Clinton will win in a landslide. He was putting all of his money on her. I said you are going to go broke. He said Republicans are too disorganized and the focus group proved that.
I said not it does not. I said if you want to see motivation and organization? Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave. Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.
You saw my exchange later on saying we have long memories and do not want to live through that hell again.
The Ron Paul comment I made was simple and sweet and every single person except the Ron Paul supporter all said "perfect" with regards to that remark.
Luntz walks over and says "you are good...you are going down to the front row...keep talking."
We taped about 70 mins worth of discussion. More clips will be aired at 6:20 AM on Fox and Friends First and then 8:20 AM on Fox and Friends. Then more clips from the debate will be aired on tomorrow's Hannity and Colmes as well from 9-10.
I am sure this is when you will see how hardcore it got in there.
I called out the room at the end of it all..when I saw how many people put their hands up that Rudy was the only one who could beat Hillary I said "I am really saddened to see how many people think he is their answer. That is very telling that the fire that was there earlier tonight for all of us agreeing that we want a true Conservative is gone already and that makes me sick as a true Conservative."
To me the top winners tonight were Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, and blech...I hate to say this but Rudy. His night was not that bad but he certainly is not my top choice for President.
I called for a thining of the herd. Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter need to go. They virtually played zero in the room. It was sad because I really like Tom and Duncan and said that if a Republican wins the White House in 2008 they should all be given cabinet posts ASAP.
Except Paul...which who by the end of the night lost his one supporter...the 21 yr old guy who didn't raise his hand when asked if anyone supported him.
Finally...Luntz. A nice guy but can be insulting. When he compared a moderate conservative to a major serious conservative he wanted a show of hands...then he added "When I say major serious conservative I mean you can hear the German Nazi marching bands and get excited", I then said to him "There it is..exactly what I was talking about." Luntz said "Relax I was only joking." I said "I know you were and it is that kind of talk that I am absolutely disgusted by and sick of...sick of it Frank...enough is enough with the nazi conservative comparisons people have got to speak up for conservatives...true conservatives."
That in a short capsule is it. Met some really nice people and we had a discussion at the end of everything and went our own ways.
I thank Luntz for letting me say whatever I wanted to on camera and speak up for Conservatives and letting me call Ron Paul out on global television.
Calcowgirl put together this list earlier this summer and I just now found it. I apologize for not getting back to you earlier.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1855121/posts?page=11#11
Most of that stuff is hardly to the level of major indictments. In fact most of it is small potatoes. A city agency buying vehicles, spending a few grand on a party, egads this merits nothing short of a Fitzmas investigation. Not.
Bernie Kerik is really the only big fish and that’s because he was padding his wages with shady ties to organized crime. Ironic considering how much work Rudy did to bringing them down in his career and taking their profits out of a major industry: the Fulton Fish Market among others.
Kerik is a problem that would no doubt be used by Hillary in a second. But it’s not like he was doing anyone any favors. He was doing things quietly for his own greed. And oddly, he was getting those benefits from people Rudy spent a lot of effort bringing down.
Shut up with your screaming all in caps typing.
And only an idiot repeats the lame lie that Iraqi children died due to the US.
They died due to the policies, part and parcel of Saddam.
And he went right on building his grandiose palaces. He didn’t care two whits about Iraqi deaths, children or otherwise.
aaarrggh..
Great job - sounds like you did us proud...
That is funny, Thanks!
Thank you for the links. I watched the debate but couldn’t remember what you looked like. Now I can put the face to your name. You did really well BTW.
Folks, the latest Zogby poll of over 9,000 likely voters has 50% of them saying there is no way they would vote for hillary. Pretty interesting poll. I can’t give you a link. I got it from Newsmax via e-mail.
Well Stated. This AZ. family is all for Hunter. We’re fed up with voting for the “ Lesser of two evils”. Go Hunter Go.
I am 100% for Duncan Hunter. Why isn’t he being recognized by so-called “true consevatives” as the man of the hour?
And why does it have to be that we look for “electable charisma” over record and character?
We are so into “images” rather than real character and records in public service that speak for themselves.
Have we been so Clintonized that we look for image and charisma over steadfastness and strength of character?
Hunter has proved himself worthy by his record and his positions.
The parts I've seen of the debate, it seems like it was a good one. The candidates were good--the crowd was fired up. I know a lot of people have various problems with all the candidates, but any of them are preferable to Hillary to me. I hope she really fires up the Republicans--of course we can't just beat her. We've got to overcome all the cheating that will go on too.
Yes the guy in the green shirt was the Ron Paul supporter. Notice he never raises his hand for either decision when asked if he has decided at all both times.
And yes he sounded exactly like Ron Silver and had a major touch of Pacino in him....that man was intelligent until he said Rudy was the best man to beat Hillary....;(
LOL...is it the new catch phrase now? They sure do have a lot of time on their hands don’t they? You would swear judging by all of the hateful remarks I was some kind of liberal.
That's not exactly true.
Thompson's complete view is NOT against tort reform, but against Federally-driven tort reform. Incredible as it may seem that a Republican candidate actually shares our Founders' view, Fred would rather that the States deal with the issue individually. This is real Federalism, and I, for one, am happy to hear it being promoted by one of Thompson's stature.
IMAGINE, a Republican who really DOESN'T want the FedGov to control everything! That's GOTTA make for some serious butt pucker over at RNC HQ.
No, actually he didn’t. Watch the videos closely again. He never raised his hands for him again. If he was really for Paul he would have raised his hand at the end of it all and spoke up in front of the world.
I donated to Tancredo. I am smart enough to know he does not stand a chance at 1% in the polls. He will serve us better working in a cabinet position in the next administration. Attorney General would be nice.
Is it a shock that Ron Paulie’s are calling people who are supposedly in their own party...NAZIS? This proves my point that the Ron Paul campaign is being bankrolled and pushed by code pink, daily kos’ers, moveon.org’ers, and any other anti-war groups that can keep his voice in the campaign.
A member of FR for a year yet you just signed up today along with 4 other people at the same hour to post to this thread? LOL..such weak sauce you pour.
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