Posted on 10/21/2007 11:38:01 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
I am going to post just a small review of my night with 23 Republicans at the Fox News Orlando Republican Presidential Debate.
Luntz was angry early on before camera's went live when he polled the group to make sure everyone there was undecided. A 21 yr old guy raised his hand and said he was supporting Ron Paul. Luntz absolutely lost it on this kid and said "Why in the hell did you not put that on your questionaire that was e-mailed to you? Why does it not shock me that a Ron Paul supporter would pull this kind of crap?"
"If someone else shows up you are being replaced and out of here...this room is for undecided."
I was originally placed in the second row towards the end of the row next to a man named Fred Hawkins Jr. who is running for Osceola County Commissioner. Luntz asked us a bunch of questions with a camera crew and producers in tow behind him and I was the first to answer. I was the first person to use the word "socialism" and it spread like wild fire.
I said the concept of America voting a socialist like Hillary Clinton as President should be motivation enough for Republicans to get their act together. I reminded Luntz of the Hillary quote saying "This is the same woman who is quoted by the San Francisco Chronicle saying "We will have to take things away for the common good." Luntz had this smirk on his face and he knew I handed him gold.
After 3 segments it was time to go live. By the time you saw what you did at home we had already gone through 3 rounds of questions and I was lighting up the joint with what I call the biggest crisis this campaign.
What do any of these men who are running for President plan on doing to combat the extreme hatred of anyone who is a Republican by the mainstream media and how bad the liberal blogs, Soros, and just about everyone who has some sort of journalistic power slimes Republicans on a daily basis. Who is going to have the spine to stand up to it and how do they plan on doing it when the Bush Administration has been knocked out time and time again with no fight.
WHO IS GOING TO PREVENT THE PERCEPTION THAT REPUBLICANS ARE NOT WAR MONGERING NAZI'S WHO ARE OUT FOR OIL COMPANIES AND THE RICH?
Luntz definitely told us through his polling and research that as of today Hillary Clinton will win in a landslide. He was putting all of his money on her. I said you are going to go broke. He said Republicans are too disorganized and the focus group proved that.
I said not it does not. I said if you want to see motivation and organization? Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave. Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.
You saw my exchange later on saying we have long memories and do not want to live through that hell again.
The Ron Paul comment I made was simple and sweet and every single person except the Ron Paul supporter all said "perfect" with regards to that remark.
Luntz walks over and says "you are good...you are going down to the front row...keep talking."
We taped about 70 mins worth of discussion. More clips will be aired at 6:20 AM on Fox and Friends First and then 8:20 AM on Fox and Friends. Then more clips from the debate will be aired on tomorrow's Hannity and Colmes as well from 9-10.
I am sure this is when you will see how hardcore it got in there.
I called out the room at the end of it all..when I saw how many people put their hands up that Rudy was the only one who could beat Hillary I said "I am really saddened to see how many people think he is their answer. That is very telling that the fire that was there earlier tonight for all of us agreeing that we want a true Conservative is gone already and that makes me sick as a true Conservative."
To me the top winners tonight were Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, and blech...I hate to say this but Rudy. His night was not that bad but he certainly is not my top choice for President.
I called for a thining of the herd. Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter need to go. They virtually played zero in the room. It was sad because I really like Tom and Duncan and said that if a Republican wins the White House in 2008 they should all be given cabinet posts ASAP.
Except Paul...which who by the end of the night lost his one supporter...the 21 yr old guy who didn't raise his hand when asked if anyone supported him.
Finally...Luntz. A nice guy but can be insulting. When he compared a moderate conservative to a major serious conservative he wanted a show of hands...then he added "When I say major serious conservative I mean you can hear the German Nazi marching bands and get excited", I then said to him "There it is..exactly what I was talking about." Luntz said "Relax I was only joking." I said "I know you were and it is that kind of talk that I am absolutely disgusted by and sick of...sick of it Frank...enough is enough with the nazi conservative comparisons people have got to speak up for conservatives...true conservatives."
That in a short capsule is it. Met some really nice people and we had a discussion at the end of everything and went our own ways.
I thank Luntz for letting me say whatever I wanted to on camera and speak up for Conservatives and letting me call Ron Paul out on global television.
Bravo to you!
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He (like McCain, Graham, et al) is one of those recent converts to 'secure the border', since he sees that is a major election issue.
[Note that these recent 'secure the border' converts are not denouncing amnesty for illegals nor The Dream Act that is still floating around in the Senate. Why? Because supporting 'secure the border' sounds good without forcing them to state that they oppose open borders and amnesty for illegals. Their 'secure the border' is a ploy to help get them elected.]
Oh, yes, and it is totally framed to get a RINO in there.
Don’t forget-Roger Ailes is very tight with Hillary.
This is a Fifth Column effort and I, for one, refuse to participate in helping them elect a Manchurian candidate so he can fall on his sword for the globalist-annointed wraith.
Duncan Hunter is a veteran and former chairman of the Armed Services Committee.
He was overwhelmingly reelected 13 times in a very socially- politically challenging district.
The idea that some lying, cheating, baby-killing, perv-coddling mayor is a better executive, or that
a one-term lawyer-lobbyist-actor from a conservative state who promoted positions that were easy in his state,
or a former executive who has just recently changed his mind on critical issues of abortion and gay marriage are somehow superior to
Duncan hunter, a consistent, prolife, military veteran who has fought for border security, life, fair trade, and fair taxes,
just because shills like Sean Hannity say so is absurd.
In my mind Huckabee probably has more negatives (smoking ban and immigration), but I found myself liking him last night.
For the rest of the campaign season, the name Hillary should not ever be uttered by a Republican without the word “socialist”.
Hillary the socialist. Hillary, who is a socialist, Hillary, who will impose socialism. Etc.
It has a nice ring to it, and it is the truth.
KUDOS! You did a great job! I videotaped the whole thing. bttt
I don’t want Rudy to be our nominee, but calling him a liberal Democrat is silly.
He’s not even as liberal as our most current liberal republican. His ratings show that he’s a moderate republican, not something we like around here, but not a liberal democrat.
There is one thing I fear more than a “Rudy/Clinton” election, and that is a Clinton presidency. Oh, there’s one OTHER thing I fear: A “Rudy/Clinton” election where the conservatives all stay home but Rudy wins anyway.
Then you have a Rudy in the white house, bitter at how the conservative abandoned him, AND empowered by the knowledge that he doesn’t need to do ANYTHING conservative because we stayed home and he won.
Plus, because we were all demoralized and stayed home, a dozen good conservatives down-ticket lost close races, giving Rudy a much more moderate/liberal congress to work with.
Of course, that’s why I’m fighting against Rudy. I could even argue that a popular conservative candidate, even one that would LOSE the presidency, would be preferable to a Rudy that wins, if that conservative energized the base. The base would turn out in droves, and we’d win back house seats and elect conservatives.
But once the primary is done, if Rudy is our candidate, ACTIVISTS need to focus on energizing the conservative base even though we’d have a crappy presidential candidate, in order to support down-ticket conservatives. We won’t do that if all the conservatives are staying home.
And if the links with Fred as VP candidate? Which will give him a REAL shot in 2016. What will you do then?
Here is a question for you:
Tommorrow you pass a law that all abortion is illegal and anything else you want ...what will happen ?
Good idea! Just don't let the Ron Paul guy bogart the thing!
Tennessee is barely conservative these days.
Nashville is very very liberal. Memphis is lost until the New Madrid fault goes off again.
Nashville and Austin are political twins.
Duncan Hunter supporters can take care of him during the primaries. The MSM does not control the ballot box....even though they are trying....trying very hard. However, if Duncan doesn’t win the primary, please don’t stay at home when election day comes and let Hillary win:-)
His recent whimperings notwithstanding, it’s difficult for me to tell Mr. Giuliani apart, ideologically and policy-wise, from, say, Sen. Joseph Lieberman. Except on the war, Mr. Giuliani would fit reasonably comfortably in the mainstream of the Democrat party, and that mainstream is liberal.
“There is one thing I fear more than a ‘Rudy/Clinton’ election, and that is a Clinton presidency. Oh, there’s one OTHER thing I fear: A ‘Rudy/Clinton’ election where the conservatives all stay home but Rudy wins anyway.”
In my own view, any election where the two major party candidates are Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Giuliani is already lost to actual conservatives.
If Mr. Giuliani wins without conservative support, then it will show that conservatives are effectively marginalized, and can be ignored with impunity, as we are powerless to affect the outcome of the general election.
If Mr. Giuliani wins with conservative support, then it will show that conservatives are effectively marginalized, and can be ignored with impunity, as we can be taken for granted because we “have nowhere else to go.”
“But once the primary is done, if Rudy is our candidate, ACTIVISTS need to focus on energizing the conservative base even though we’d have a crappy presidential candidate, in order to support down-ticket conservatives. We won’t do that if all the conservatives are staying home.”
I have no intention of staying home. I’ll go out and vote for every office on the ballot. And with the exception of the presidency, it will be a straight-Republican ticket.
For the presidency, I’ll vote third party.
I won’t vote for a baby killer for president.
Just not gonna do it.
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I missed that, but see post #81. I sure hope we’re not funding something like that.
“Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave.”
Even for Rudy, who I thought won. Hope Jim Rob read that.
YO DA MAN
It’s not good enough for me to vote for him either, when I have others I trust much more.
But in the general election, I believe it’s better to vote for the guy who says he will do what I want, than the guy who says he will do what I don’t want.
In the first case, I have to trust him to do what he said, which of course he might not be trustworthy.
But in the second case, I have to trust him to NOT to what he said, and if I think he isn’t trustworthy, why am I voting for him?
If Rudy was SAYING he’d do what Hillary would do, I’d understand not voting for him just because he’s an “R”. I felt that way about Linc Chafee, and was glad to see him go.
But at the moment, on many issues Rudy is SAYING he’ll be mostly on “our side”. Hannity thinks that’s enough to SUPPORT him, and I certainly don’t, but in the general election, I can’t see giving Hillary half a vote over a man who SAYS he’ll do what I want him to do.
I hope I don’t have to make that choice.
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