Posted on 10/10/2007 10:27:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Hmm...it appears that MA does have runoffs for primaries; I do find any provision for a runoff in the general election. Indeed, it looks like Romney got only 49.77% of the total vote, even if it was 51% of the enrolled party vote.
Republican Mitt Romney 1,091,988 49.77
Democratic Shannon O’Brien 985,981 44.94
Green-Rainbow Jill Stein 76,530 3.49
Libertarian Carla Howell 23,044 1.05
Independent Barbara C. Johnson 15,335 0.70
Write-in All others 1,301 0.06
I meant I do not find any provision for a general election runoff.
I am a New Mexico voter (which is a borderline state, much like Florida, albeit much smaller).
Most of the Republicans I know (solid voters in the Primary) -— we had a long discussion at the men’s retreat at my church -— would stay home or vote 3rd party if Mitt Romney or Guiliani was the candidate -— this was 48 men -— NM turns on a couple hundred votes.
Romney is just a slipperly liar, and Rudy is a liberal
Basically, by playing to the liberals, the Republicans would lose the conservatives.
Yes, that will be a disaster for the country of Carterian proportions, but so be it.
Carter brough us Reagan. If that is what it takes, that is what it takes.
Exactly! The point of the article is that he’ll play anybody for what he wants. He is pretending to be conservative now because that’s what he needs to get through the primaries. What we see now is not what we’d get if he were elected. He would have no more need to pander to the conservatives in the Republican party as he wouldn’t need to go through the primaries again in 4 years.
And Mitt has connected better than anyone else with a majority of people in the early primary states. I'd say, he's doing pretty well. I am sure the other candidates would jump at the chance to change places with him if they could be leading in those states.
While I don't often disagree with you, in this case, I do disagree with the bulk of what you said. Perhaps, if all we had to go on were his words or his debate performances, you'd be right. However, we have his actual record as governor by which to judge him. His record as governor is the best indicator of his future actions. Actions speak louder than mere words.
He governed dark blue Massachusetts in a very conservative fashion. That's a lot harder to do than in a red state.
As that great FReeper, Plutarch, once said:
"Being pro-life as a Republican Senator from Tennessee isn't heavy political lifting, it is more like rolling off a log. Romney in Massachusetts was fighting upstream against raging left-wing rapids, while Thompson (R-TN) was drifting lazily along barely paddling downstream along Tennessee's right wing current."
The chances of him going backwards or retreating from this conservative course are slim to none when he's already weathered the storm in such a hostile environment and proven his commitment. As Jeff Jacoby of the Boston Globe put it: "Romney’s very public migration rightward over the last few years is . . . intended not to hide his real views but to liberate them."
Basically, people lazily focus on words or a certain style rather than looking at the real record and his current platform. Mitt doesn't get enough credit for his actual record and the things he did on behalf of the pro-life and pro-family causes. READ THIS. It documents many of the conservative actions taken by Romney while governor and is a testimony to the support he has received from conservatives who ACTUALLY know him and worked with him.
Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll 10/10 Giuliani 27% Thompson 17% Romney 16%
Romney is trending upward while the others are not.
Of course, there is always room for improvement, but there is never going to be the perfect candidate. Ann Coulter's point about Mitt being the most qualified and competent candidate with the strategy and required funds to beat Rudy and then Hillary does make a lot of sense though.
Those numbers worry me a little. As you may recall, I’ve always been concerned that Fred and Mitt might split the vote just enough for the leftwing mayor to slip between them and we’d end up with a nominee that at least half of us don’t want and that 20% of us could never vote for because of the abortion/gun/marriage issues.
Primary runoffs are only in TX, OK, AR, LA (called general election), MS, AL, GA, and SC, plus NC if no one gets 40 percent. There have never been runoffs in party primaries outside of the South.
Do you think the Dems will win the Domenici Senate seat?
It really has to do with the weather.
NM is very conservative in the rural areas -— really only Sante Fe and certain ski areas are liberal. This includes long-time hispanic residents and even some Indian tribes. VERY conservative, very pro-oil (only major employers).
The rural population barely outnumbers Sante Fe — BUT if the weather is bad (snow) -— the rural population cannot get to the polls and vote (NM is very much a Rocky Mountain state -— people forget).
The last couple of elections have turned on weather — one each way.
But with a RINO running for office -— we won’t bother to make the trek, especially in bad weather.
Anyone who can make liberals cry this much is a genuis.
'Hearts Were Broken'
the political version of buyer's remorse
NARAL....phoned the governor's office but, she says, he never called back.
"We felt completely played,"
Log Cabin Republicans were saying they'd been snookered.
If the gay-rights crowd sounds bitterly disappointed, the state's environmentalists sound like they'd gotten punk'd.
...it builds up your hopes and breaks your heart even more."
Of course liberals have conservatives best interest at heart now don't they in trying to tell us the "truth" about how "moderate" Mitt was? Out of the goodness of their hearts they just don't want us conservatives to fall into the same trap they fell in to. Obviously the fact that they are producing hit pieces on him has nothing to do with the fact that he could slay Hilary in the general election and the debates. Really they just don't want us to get hurt too.
Why do liberals sound like 8th graders crying about boyfriends and trying to bad mouth him to the school?
Yes, it worries all of us. That's exactly what worries Ann Coulter as well, I think. She was on FOX this morning "steering" people away from Fred and Huckabee and towards Mitt. I think she believes we must all rally around Romney or else end up with Rudy.
Like, Ann, this evangelical Christian leader is encouraging conservatives to support Romney to stop Rudy. Letter Urges Conservative Christians to Support Romney
On a lighter note. Mitt with Jay Leno. Very personable.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceQX10Nrk44
That's a cheap shot. John Kerry never held a job in the private sector. Mitt Romney ran a successful business.
John Kerry was all about himself. Mitt Romney did much for his family, church, business, state, and country.
If you are saying Romney's an egotist, is he any more of one than other politicians are?
If you want to say that he cheated the left, so one can't expect him to be on the up-and-up with the right, you may have a point.
But the way I look at it, Romney gave the liberals who'd ruined Massachusetts politics a taste of their own medicine, and it was worth it. I only wish he'd stayed on to finish the job.
Very well said.
Americans give their precious votes to candidates who earn their confidence and trust.
Which is why Rudi Giuliani is unacceptable.
Rooty and his Rooters are working assiduously to religiously cleanse the Repub party, to dump conservatives off the party lifeboat.
THEY would feel more "comfortable" in a Repub party free of religious and social conservatism-----IOW, in a second Democrat party.
The elitist, umnmitigated contempt the Giuliani camp evinces for social and religious conservatives disqualifies Giuliani from holding any public office.
Your assignment for the next 13 months is to sit crossed-legged in your front yard, and repeat over and over, "No Way I will vote for Romney. No Way I will vote for Romney. No Way. No Way. No Way.
Then, maybe the rest of us can get on with a civilized debate among Republicans without the RDS quackers on FR.
RDS -- Romney Deranged Syndrome.
That is why I will not support either of them.
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