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Aging and Gay, and Facing Prejudice in Twilight
New York Times ^ | October 9, 2007 | Jane Gross

Posted on 10/09/2007 5:55:50 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Even now, at 81 and with her memory beginning to fade, Gloria Donadello recalls her painful brush with bigotry at an assisted-living center in Santa Fe, N.M. Sitting with those she considered friends, “people were laughing and making certain kinds of comments, and I told them, ‘Please don’t do that, because I’m gay.’”

The result of her outspokenness, Ms. Donadello said, was swift and merciless. “Everyone looked horrified,” she said. No longer included in conversation or welcome at meals, she plunged into depression. Medication did not help. With her emotional health deteriorating, Ms. Donadello moved into an adult community nearby that caters to gay men and lesbians.

“I felt like I was a pariah,” she said, settled in her new home. “For me, it was a choice between life and death.”

Elderly gay people like Ms. Donadello, living in nursing homes or assisted-living centers or receiving home care, increasingly report that they have been disrespected, shunned or mistreated in ways that range from hurtful to deadly, even leading some to commit suicide.

Some have seen their partners and friends insulted or isolated. Others live in fear of the day when they are dependent on strangers for the most personal care. That dread alone can be damaging, physically and emotionally, say geriatric doctors, psychiatrists and social workers.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
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To: reaganaut1

If you were to confess to those around you that you were a pedophile, or liked having sex with wild animals, and suddenly they decided they no longer liked you, whose fault is that? There is a lot to be said for the days in which people were ashamed of their sins and either gave them up or kept them to themselves.


61 posted on 10/09/2007 7:49:46 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: OpusatFR

“at that age, they simply don’t care what or who you are anymore.”

Besides, even if they did care, they can’t remember. ;-)


62 posted on 10/09/2007 7:53:33 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: reaganaut1
“I felt like I was a pariah

Well boo hoo hoo

63 posted on 10/09/2007 7:58:48 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: reaganaut1
I have given up scads of things for my kids. Places I wanted to go, things I wanted to do...tons and tons of personal time that I might have liked to be wasting on myself rather than going to a soccer game. And you know what? That self denial has made me a far better person, a person who is much less self-centered, and it has brought me emotional riches back a hundredfold. No job I have ever done has been as fulfilling as being my daughters' Dad.

That said, when I think of the four guys from my high school/college days who "went over to play for the other team", I really feel sorry for them. Every one from a broken home with either an overbearing or an absent father, they are completely and totally self-centered. I have watched "the LifeStyle" overtake every facet of their being, until they were no longer singers who happened to be Gay, or Liberals who happened to be Gay, or college-graduates who happened to be Gay...they are GAYs who have nothing in their lives that does not center on being GAY. You cannot make any kind of observation on what they have done in life, without them viewing it as REALLY being about them being GAY. It is a totally self-centered lifestyle for those who have nothing else on their plate except "LOOK AT ME! VALIDATE ME! AGREE WITH ME!"

That said, I feel such sorrow for them, because they are going to be sad, old queens with nothing to hold onto. The depth of being that comes from making real sacrifices will never be theirs, because they are the center of their Universe, with only them on the throne of the Almighty. (One guy I knew, I assured that he was smart, well-read, and a nice guy, but that I disagreed with his choices and I thought God had something better for him. He told me he "never wanted to be preached to again" and I was assured that he would take out a restraining order if I ever contacted him again. And yet, I am sure that in his mind, I 'abandoned him.")

It is kind of like warning your friend that putting his face in a glass furnace would be a Bad Idea, only to be reassured that you are a small-minded bigot from the Midwest...and then to watch your friend stick his face in a glass furnace.

It is a sad lifestyle that consumes everything in its path.

64 posted on 10/09/2007 8:05:10 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: EEDUDE

You know, the arguement is always framed in that tone, angry or afraid, which immediately attacks the viewer as being either hateful or fearful. I am neither. What I would feel would be sadness and pity. If someone wants to name call me, let them call me not bigot or homophobe...but the One who Pities.


65 posted on 10/09/2007 8:09:21 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: reaganaut1
Of course the article does not mention as causes of loneliness the lack of children in homosexual relationships or the higher break-up rates of male homosexual relationships. Maybe some "lifestyles" are less conducive to happiness?dS

That is clearly true. Also, In your eighties you are probably not involved in sex anymore so you are not straight or gay, you're just old.

66 posted on 10/09/2007 8:13:05 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Orwell was off the mark by 24 years.)
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To: reaganaut1

You cannot legislate that people “accept” someone who defines themself by their behavior. They are free to engage in that behavior, and others are free to find that behavior repugnant.

They should not be mistreated by staff, but you cannot mandate that other residence decide whether or not to befriend them.


67 posted on 10/09/2007 8:16:56 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: FrPR
I appreciate your admiration of your sister.

Sometimes - when I am walking with one my adult daughters and she puts her arm around me in a hug or if we are holding hands in those treasured loving mother-daughter moments, I have "felt" people looking at us.

I have concluded that sometimes I am getting "stares" that we may be May-December lesbians. We are smiling and enjoying the moments as they occur on our mother-daughter outings and I "feel" stares as some people we pass appear uncomfortable.

Maybe your sister reaches the point when she almost uses her outings as a lesson to the community around her showing everyone her tolerance and displaying her interracial lesbian relationship.

68 posted on 10/09/2007 8:32:59 AM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: reaganaut1

“report that they have been disrespected, shunned or mistreated in ways that range from hurtful to deadly, even leading some to commit suicide.”

Must have been hard getting those reports from those who committed suicide...


69 posted on 10/09/2007 8:59:53 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: reaganaut1
"The most common reaction, in a generation accustomed to being in the closet, is a retreat back to the invisibility that was necessary for most of their lives, when homosexuality was considered both a crime and a mental illness."

Do I hear the sound of one toe tapping?

70 posted on 10/09/2007 9:09:19 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: FrPR

Whatever her sexual orientation, your sister sounds like an admirable person. You have every right to be proud of her.


71 posted on 10/09/2007 9:38:12 AM PDT by Mila
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To: reaganaut1
She tells her fellow residents what sort of comments they are not allowed to make and then is amazed that they shun her. That seems to be the gist of it.
72 posted on 10/09/2007 10:15:31 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: 2banana

“I agree - and she is a very rare exception to the homosexual lifestyle...”


No, honestly, she’s not. You’d be surprised at how many of “Them” you encounter every day and don’t even know it. The hold normal jobs, live in homes that probably look like any other, and many of them raise children, with as much love and understanding as anyone else. So no, she’s not the exception. The sterotypical “in your face” gays and lesbians are more of the exception.


74 posted on 10/09/2007 11:16:38 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: reaganaut1
[Others live in fear of the day when they are dependent on strangers for the most personal care.]
 
Maybe they should have thought about that before they destroyed the traditional social structures that have cared for the elderly:  the family and the Church.
 
They made their bed and now they'll get bed sores in it.

75 posted on 10/09/2007 3:14:07 PM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: kittymyrib

I wouldn’t worry too much about it...They are rare...

Life expectancy is 49.


76 posted on 10/09/2007 3:20:34 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Right Brother

That is the most delightfully politically incorrect thing ever...


77 posted on 10/09/2007 3:23:28 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
On the one hand, I should accept them for who they are -- homosexuals. On the other hand, shouldn't they have to accept me for who I am -- someone who doesn't want to be friends with homosexuals? I'm forced to be tolerant -- but they don't have to be?

Well said, and in consonance with your screename!

78 posted on 10/09/2007 3:27:30 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: reaganaut1
Sounds like the sort of thing that happens. People can handle it on their own. Gays are already starting up their own retirement communities, so nursing homes are the next step. Given time the market copes with things like this. The real story here is why the Times is so obsessed with gay issues.
79 posted on 10/09/2007 3:39:45 PM PDT by x
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To: reaganaut1
How would one describe a 81 year old homosexual, as homosexuality's strict definition is a sexual attraction to the same sex?

I can see her claiming to have been one, but er use of the present tense is really creepy.

80 posted on 10/09/2007 3:43:37 PM PDT by skeeter
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