New York Times Poll: Evangelicals Agree with Dr. Dobson

A New York Times/CBS News poll shows white, evangelical Republicans agree with Dr. James Dobson.

Nearly 60 percent of those who plan to vote in the primaries said they could not support a candidate they didn't agree with on issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage. Eighty-six percent said presidential candidates should be judged on both their political record and their personal life.

Dr. Dobson has taken a beating in the media for promising to vote only for a candidate who shares his basic values, even if that means supporting a third-party candidate.

Last week, he wrote an op-ed piece for The New York Times to clarify his position: "Speaking personally, and not for the organization I represent, I firmly believe that the selection of a president should begin with a recommitment to traditional moral values and beliefs. Those include the sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage, and other inviolable pro-family principles. Only after that determination is made can the acceptability of a nominee be assessed."

Rick Scarborough, president of Vision America, a Texas-based group that has a network of 5,000 pastors willing to mobilize their churches to vote, said evangelicals are not bluffing.

“I am not going to cast a sacred vote granted to me by the blood of millions of God-fearing Americans who died on the fields of battle for freedom, for a candidate who says it’s OK to kill the unborn,” he told The Times. “I just can’t.”

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Read Dr. Dobson's op-ed that ran in The New York Times last week.

"That being said, if he continues with this insanity, he will surely get a true nightmare for president, one that will hand him his worst fears (3 more Ruth Ginsburgs?)."

I find myself in a rather odd position here, as I find Dobson generally to be a nut and I find myself defending him today. Let's be honest and admit that the real issue concerning the next President is about USSC judges, not Iraq, and let's analyze what you said above.

1. If Hillary is President we will get more like Ginsburg for sure. More Democrats will slip into office on her train-tails also.

2. If Rudy is elected what guarantee do we have he will appoint another Scalia? The word of a politician? If we look at his track record of appointing judges in New York it shows a very scary precedent unless I'm mistaken.

If as many people sit out the election as the article suggests, Rudy isn't going to win. Even if he wins, he will still face a Democratic leadership in both houses of congress. Does anyone think he can appoint a Scalia or Alito type to the court? No serious person would believe that. So what would we gain with Rudy as President? He will be forced to appoint someone that the left can live with and the Pro-life crowd can't.

Of course I want to state that I have absolutely no clue who would agree to a 3rd party candidacy, but let's thinks a bit. Is there a Republican that satisfies the Pro Life crowd, the NRA crowd, the lower my taxes crowd and the Stop Illegals crowd? And if there is, why isn't he running right now?

Therefore, option #3: Some yet unknown, 3rd party person that is Pro-Life wins. Well, that's the proverbial mandate isn't it.

I do not want the lives of innocent babies on my conscience over a prideful display of what my principles are. And that might just be the price.

Worth saying twice.

Worth putting in context: A vote for an outspoken supporter of abortion will in some way assuage the consciousness of someone who "does not want the lives of innocent babies on" their conscience. Good logic.

Show me one voter—liberal, conservative, whatever—who would vote for a candidate that stands in opposition to their personal beliefs. The MSM making Christian voting a big deal is totally agenda driven, and intended to confuse/split the Christian “block”. Conservatives, Christians, Moderates, Jews, Hindus, Liberals, Atheists...doesn’t matter. People will vote for the candidate who believes in what THEY believe in. It’s just that simple.

The principles of the scriptures are immutable and cannot be compromised. The preservation of innocent human life is such a principle.

“Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.” Jeremiah 1:5.

“Truly you have formed my inmost being; you knit me in my mothers womb. I give you thanks that I am fearfully, wonderfully made; wonderful are your works.” Psalm 139:13,14

Some on these boards may not understand this perspective but for those of us that hold to them there will be no votes for Rudy.

"2. If Rudy is elected what guarantee do we have he will appoint another Scalia? The word of a politician? If we look at his track record of appointing judges in New York it shows a very scary precedent unless I'm mistaken."

Let's face it. If Rudy wins the dems win. They may not have Hillary but they'll have a president with an R behind his name who espouses the same policies. A Rudy presidency would move the party and the country further left than a Hillary presidency because the only opposition would would come from within his own party. The left wouldn't oppose him when he does their bidding while satisfying country club republicans because he has an R after his name? RINO's have already set the precedent with Arnold and Bloomberg. How else could a cross-dressing, pro abortion, homo loving, gun grabbing, illegal alien apologist NY Lib, even be considered a front-runner in the Republican party? Seriously, no conservative would have dared to imagine this scenario 8 years ago. I don't necessarily agree with Dobson's one issue politics but I understand why he's trying to derail this train. If Rudy is our nominee the Dems can't lose.

thats why it is even more important to not waste energy or effort in (sorry but its how it comes across) throwing a tantrum of demand. There are far better ways to get a point across. I have said this before too....I really cant imagine Jesus and the Apostles saying to those may have turned their backs on them...ok fine we wont have anything to do with you..go have at it.
Instead of being divisive...heres a novel idea.
Most I have seen on here and about dont even like Rudy.
So why not unite together ..with strength and work toward making sure he doesnt get the nomination. BUT
we also cant go throwing out all the candidates because they dont agree 100%. Lets calmly educate, research, fact find. Then lets all work together to the candidate that fits best into office. The work wont stop there. Thats just the beginning.

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