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Giuliani, Evangelical Rift Grows Over Abortion
The Christian Post ^ | October 5, 2007 | Michelle Vu

Posted on 10/05/2007 4:24:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: prairiebreeze

Bump to your post.

I can’t figure why Fred isn’t a good fit since he is for traditional marriage, a man and a woman. Also because the president does not do a constitutional amendment all by his lonesome. Seems like they ought to be jumping on the Congress more than anyone else. Dobson needs to be trying to get more good people in Congress instead of bashing presidential candidates. Seems like all this is a wasted effort for what he wants done.


21 posted on 10/05/2007 4:59:57 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He wouldn’t even face her in the New York Senate race, why should we think he’ll beat her for the highest office in the land?

At the risk of telling you something you already know, the rest of the country is a tad to right of NY. In fact, Republican Presidential candidates have been successful without winning NY for years.

22 posted on 10/05/2007 5:00:58 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: TLI
” I can not see anyone that has any true conservative values ever being able to vote for any democrat’

Of course, I'm not suggesting you vote for a democrat.

23 posted on 10/05/2007 5:02:17 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: daylilly

“You probably won’t have to. Rudy isn’t a done deal.”

Thank God for that.


24 posted on 10/05/2007 5:02:21 PM PDT by Grunthor (I'd be Catholic but I don't speak latin and don't wanna learn just to go to church.)
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To: Grunthor
Or his values are just more important than which liberal occupies the oval office in 2008.

The liberal who promote increased abortion, or the liberal who'll simply tolerate what we have now.

25 posted on 10/05/2007 5:02:59 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guiliani represents the old Rockefeller Republicans trying to take control of the party. Dobson is right to do whatever it takes to prevent that from happening. It would be better to endure four years of Hillary than letting that vile wing take over the party again.


26 posted on 10/05/2007 5:04:04 PM PDT by Dreagon
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To: bill1952

Interesting analysis and I can’t say I disagree.


27 posted on 10/05/2007 5:05:08 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: nosofar

“The liberal who promote increased abortion, or the liberal who’ll simply tolerate what we have now.”

Which one is which? I get my liberals confused.


28 posted on 10/05/2007 5:05:19 PM PDT by Grunthor (I'd be Catholic but I don't speak latin and don't wanna learn just to go to church.)
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To: Grunthor
“It appears that Dobson would rather see Hillary as president” Or his values are just more important than which liberal occupies the oval office in 2008.

Do his "values" include losing the War on Terror, and sacrificing thousands of Americans (born and unborn) to Al Qaeda? If so, the boy needs a values adjustment.

29 posted on 10/05/2007 5:05:21 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: pawdoggie

That wasn’t my point at all. My point was Rudy vs. Hillary, not the venue.


30 posted on 10/05/2007 5:05:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I won’t be choosing between one pro-infanticide candidate and another.


31 posted on 10/05/2007 5:20:32 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (for a good time, call vobns.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Rudy would be good for national defense, but with Supreme Court Justice Stevens in his 87th year of life, a couple of justices in their early 70’s, and Rudy’s lean toward amnesty I really don’t want to vote for him.


32 posted on 10/05/2007 5:20:54 PM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Ignoring agression does not produce peace.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That wasn’t my point at all. My point was Rudy vs. Hillary, not the venue.

Frankly, now I'm not sure what your point was, but I'm sick and tired of self-appointed "evangelical leaders" who think they own the GOP. The Democrats can act like the filthiest heathens who ever lived, and put the country's safety at risk to boot with not so much as an audible peep from the Dobsons of the world ("oh, they're Democrats, of course they're going to act that way"). Let one Republican suggest that pro-choice people should be included in the "big tent", and these paladins of pious palaver will be heading for the nearest MSNBC microphone to announce that they're bolting the GOP.

33 posted on 10/05/2007 5:24:25 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: jobim
I believe that no real practicing Catholic will vote for Giuliani. Period. I have faith that real practicing other Christians will refrain as well.

And no Evangelical, worth the name "Evangelical" should do so either. Their vote on this one will tell whether they're really an Evangelical or not.

Regards,
Star Traveler

34 posted on 10/05/2007 5:25:00 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Mariner
Sean interviewed Dobson today and what really has me upset is the vitriol in his leaked, private email about Fred Thompson... a man whom he has never met... and the words that he used to describe his perceived faults... let us just say that it was not very Christian. Dobson has a dark side to him. I never have seen it before today... I was a huge admirer of his and watched his program quite often. He is not what he appears to be.IMHO, YMMV etc.

LLS

35 posted on 10/05/2007 5:28:00 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: prairiebreeze
I expect evangelicals to not sell the country down the river either.

A country which would choose between Hillary and Rudy probably doesn't deserve much.

36 posted on 10/05/2007 5:31:37 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PISSANT GHOULIANI pretends to be a conservative.


37 posted on 10/05/2007 5:32:52 PM PDT by LibKill (I'm AUTISTIC. You can't blame me for anything. If you do you are hate-filled.)
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To: daylilly

You guys need to vote for me...

Platform:

Bomb the sh!t out of the Islamics.
Put abortion providers in jail (or under the jail).
Deport ALL illegals.
Mine our southern border.
Impeach about half of the Supreme Court.
Isolate gays and aids victims.

I’ll think of more...


38 posted on 10/05/2007 5:43:36 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: babygene

Yoy seem to have no sense


39 posted on 10/05/2007 6:07:53 PM PDT by BBell
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To: babygene

I meant to say yoy!:’>


40 posted on 10/05/2007 6:12:59 PM PDT by BBell
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