Posted on 10/04/2007 6:43:43 AM PDT by presidio9
Democrat Hillary Clinton would beat Republican Rudolph Giuliani in the race for the US presidency if the election was held now, according to poll data released Thursday.
Senator Clinton, wife of ex-president Bill Clinton and the strong front-runner for the Democratic nomination for next year's election, held a 51-43 percent margin over Giuliani in a Washington Post-ABC News poll.
The poll showed Democrat voters favoring Clinton over Giuliani by 88-9 percent while independents were for Clinton 48-44 percent. Republican voters preferred Giuliani, the former New York City mayor, 88-10 percent.
The poll also showed that two-thirds of voters believe Clinton would take the country in a different direction compared with her husband during his 1993-2001 presidency, with most considering that "a good thing."
Another Washington Post-ABC News poll released Wednesday showed Clinton was the solid favorite for the Democrat nomination in the November 2008 election.
She held a 33 point lead over her closest rival, fellow Senator Barack Obama.
Giuliani, meanwhile, leads most polls in his party's race,but is more closely dogged by rivals Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson.
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IIRC Kerry carried NY State by 18 percentage points in 2004. In the last poll I saw, Hillary! polled at 11 percentage points ahead of Rudy among New Yorkers. So he is a tougher opponent for her, and while the odds are that she would win New York, I wouldn’t call it a lock.
A few more dumb ideas like the 5K baby bond and who knows what her numbers might look like.
>>Amazing how Washington Post polls are accepted as gospel around here if they prove what people want to believe, but ridiculed if they don’t.<<
Yes.
Right now the polls seem to show a lead for the witch, but the same polls had the race too close to call just a few weeks ago. So its fluid, as you’d expect over a year away with not a single primary having been held.
No poll changes the obvious fact that 2008 will be a very very difficult year for Republicans, no matter who they nominate. I think RG is the strongest candidate, but it won’t be easy.
If things go badly, this will be a very different country in the next decade, hardly recognizable.
738,882 less, to be exact. But the turnout was 2,289,786 less than in 2000, so her margin of victory increased:
2000 Turnout: 6,779,839 Clinton: 55% Lazio's 43%
2006 Turnout: 4,490,053 Clinton: 67% Spencer 31%
It's also worth noting that Clinton - who was less popular in 2000 than 2006 - was 8-10 up on Giuliani when he withdrew.
I know the conventional wisdom here is that Clinton would be the easiest of the Democrat front runners to beat, but I'm not so sure. Her negatives are likely are as high as they are ever going to get, she's ahead of Giuliani on a popular vote basis and close or perhaps ahead on an electoral vote basis. Thompson is not to date running a particularly impressive campaign and Romeny - who IMO would likely be the strongest candidate in a general election which I think will turn on "competence" - is well behind the leaders.
She can't be her own running mate!
Clinton's popularity is base on the false premise that the first Clinton administration was golden. But, not until the Republicans took over the House.
Game, set, match ? Conservatives catapult the Socialist Hitler to the Presidency
says who?????
Has anyone realized the sample was of adults????? Not registered voters, not likely voters, but adults. I am willing to bet that if the poll was likely voters, the result would be around a tie.
Has anyone realized the sample was of adults????? Not registered voters, not likely voters, but adults. I am willing to bet that if the poll was likely voters, the result would be around a tie.
Agreed. But I also keep in mind that in early 2004 there appeared to be NO CHANCE that Bush would be re-elected.
We only know one thing for sure. The MSM will pull out the stops to elect the RAT candidate.
Your post was an A+ until the final sentence. Romney is a joke and Thompson is doing just fine, by the way.
Compromise is: getting rid of your principles a little bit at a time.
- Patrick Lear
Probably they will be higher. Dumb ideas win over a lot of dumb voters, who are very numerous out there.
I am trying to find the methodology for that particular poll but can’t find it. If it’s anything like their other polls then it’s pretty much bogus. It’s a random sample of 1,114 people and not a sample of likely voters or voters. And they add another 212 people who are black for a total of 1326 voters with a guarantee of at least 15% black.
What kind of poll is that? Try asking a ramdom sample of VOTERS and then see what you get. The results will be quite different and no way will Hillary be in the lead.
(this is not the poll but it shows their probable methodology for that poll)
Washington Post-ABC News Poll
The Washington Post-ABC News
Monday, October 1, 2007//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_100107.html
Yep, meaningless. The media wants a Hill-rudy battle, but it won’t happen. Fred or Mitt will be the nominee.
LOL. Maybe, but so far the baby bond is seriously opposed by the American public by (2 to 1 against).
Tagline material!
A very simple truth!
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