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Clinton preferred over Giuliani in US race: poll
AFP ^ | October 4, 2007

Posted on 10/04/2007 6:43:43 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: xzins
You got included by participating in the thread at post #2.

So now I'm stuck eh? I don't think so.

121 posted on 10/05/2007 6:28:30 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia; P-Marlowe; wagglebee
ONE ISSUE voter

First, "life" isn't an issue. It is a "right" enshrined in the basic documents of our Founding Fathers.

Without that "right" to life, no other rights or issues matter. You don't care if you're pro-gun if you've been murdered.

However, there are plenty of issues/reasons for opposing Rudy beyond the right to life.

He's anti-gun.

He's anti-family

He's anti-marriage

He's pro-illegal immigration

He's inexperienced.

He has a huge cesspool of personal problems that will doom him in this election.

He's marched with pro-gay activists in support of their causes.

He supports Federal Funding of abortion (focus on the forced Federal Funding of a controversial medical procedure.)

We could go on.

122 posted on 10/05/2007 6:30:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: rhombus

It’s not a matter of stuck. It’s a matter of answering your question in which you asked “how?”.

Well, now you know “how” it happened.


123 posted on 10/05/2007 6:32:06 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia; xzins; P-Marlowe
Okay, let's play a little hypothetical game.

We have an unidentified candidate with the following positions:

1. They support abortion on demand throughout pregnancy, though they have made comments to the effect that they don't like abortion and would like it to be "safe and legal and rare." They have the highest possible rating from NARAL.
2. They support "civil unions" that essentially mimic marriage for homosexuals.
3. They support the strictest possible gun control laws.
4. They support amnesty for illegal aliens.

Based on these facts, would your initial guess be that this unnamed candidate is a liberal Democrat or a conservative Republican.

124 posted on 10/05/2007 6:32:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: xzins; GeorgefromGeorgia; P-Marlowe

There is ONLY ONE “one issue” candidate in the race and that’s Rooty Toot and the reality is that his single issue was more a matter of happenstance than anything.

The WTC was a KNOWN terrorist target and it was KNOWN that evacuation would be critical. In seven and a half years as mayor, Rooty Toot did NOTHING to develop an evacuation plan. Rooty Toot put a command center in the middle of a known terrorist target (which totally contradicts thousands of years of strategic practice) to use for his adulterous liasons, having this command center here actually made matters worse on 9/11. Rooty’s role in the aftermath of 9/11 was cheering and going to funerals.

Rooty Toot did LESS to prepare NYC for terrorism than Ray Nagin did to prepare New Orleans for Katrina.


125 posted on 10/05/2007 6:39:17 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: P-Marlowe

Don’t insult me by accusing me of not having principles because I don’t agree with your position on abortion.
That type of attitude has fostered religious extremism. I don’t believe in abortion on demand, especially mid and late term abortions, but I don’t object to limited abortions.
In my opinion, going back to making criminals of women that choose abortion is not good policy. Better policy is to facilitate adoption, discourage abortion with better education.


126 posted on 10/05/2007 6:39:18 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: wagglebee; GeorgefromGeorgia; xzins; P-Marlowe

Well, if you were to tell me that he also opposed numerous tax cuts, then I’d say we’d have to be talking about a Democrat.


127 posted on 10/05/2007 6:40:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
I respectfully disagree with your position.
You are entitled to believe that Rudy is not better than Hildebeast, but in my opinion, you are so focused on ONE issue that you cannot see the forest for the tree.
128 posted on 10/05/2007 6:44:56 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia; P-Marlowe; wagglebee
Don’t insult me by accusing me of not having principles

You misunderstood his question. If I understood correctly, he asked which principle would you die for?

Well?

129 posted on 10/05/2007 6:45:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

See #122


130 posted on 10/05/2007 6:46:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

At this point I say, have a nice day. Then I close the door on those preaching on my doorstep. ;-)


131 posted on 10/05/2007 6:48:18 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: wagglebee

NIXON put more liberal on the Supreme Court than Rudy will. Nixon MAY have been a bit more conservative on social issues (of course he was President almost 40 years ago). Rudy is far more conservative on issue that really matter to a Presidency. Issues like Defense, Homeland Security, Taxation.


132 posted on 10/05/2007 6:48:37 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia; P-Marlowe; xzins
Don’t insult me by accusing me of not having principles because I don’t agree with your position on abortion.

You're right, having no regard for the sanctity of life IS a principle.

That type of attitude has fostered religious extremism.

You mean the religious extremism of secularism and their slaughter of over 3500 infants every day in the United States?

I don’t believe in abortion on demand, especially mid and late term abortions, but I don’t object to limited abortions.

So, you're okay with killing babies at 90 days, but after that it should stop?

In my opinion, going back to making criminals of women that choose abortion is not good policy.

Who is talking about making women who have abortions criminals? This must be a new pro-abortion talking point because I don't remember seeing until a couple months ago.

Better policy is to facilitate adoption, discourage abortion with better education.

American women are better educated that any women in any nation at any time in history, they had 3500 babies murdered YESTERDAY.

133 posted on 10/05/2007 6:49:22 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: presidio9
Senator Clinton, wife of ex-president Bill Clinton
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I do like the term “ex-president” in lieu of “former president”.

134 posted on 10/05/2007 6:50:02 AM PDT by CHEE (OK, so what's the speed of dark? - Larry the Cable Guy)
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To: presidio9
The poll also showed that two-thirds of voters believe Clinton would take the country in a different direction compared with her husband during his 1993-2001 presidency,

How could anyone believe that when we know that Hillary was the real power behind the throne who ran the administration and pushed her own personal agenda, while Billyboy was happy to just use his high position primarily to seduce impressionable young women and indulge his insatiable ego?

135 posted on 10/05/2007 6:51:48 AM PDT by epow ("The best we can hope for the people is that they be suitably armed" Alexander Hamilton)
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To: LibLieSlayer
BTW, I am working for Fred and donating as much as I can. I will be part of the Party that defeats rootie... I cannot vote for a baby killing gun-grabber

Fred's going to lose. He's Bob Dole without the energy. His heart may be in the right place, but that won't help if he doesn't have the "delivery power"; judging by his recent campaign performances, he doesn't. This problem will become more evident when he is a choice to be made in front of all Americans, rather than just the Republican faithful.

Your post exemplifies the reason as to why _Republicans_ will _also_ lose in 2008, the presidency, and otherwise.

BTW, I will support and vote for the Republican nominee, no matter WHOM he may be. I will never, never, NEVER vote for a Democrat again. EVER. Got that?

- John
BTW, in 1992, immediately after the Democratic convention, I told a friend, "we're going to lose this one". Was right that time, too. I hope to be proven wrong this time. We'll see.

136 posted on 10/05/2007 6:53:56 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia; xzins; P-Marlowe
NIXON put more liberal on the Supreme Court than Rudy will.

Nixon didn't know they were liberals. And we have NO REASON to believe that Rooty Toot would appoint anything other than liberals; after all, why would any president knowingly appoint judges with views that were the exact opposite of their own.

Nixon MAY have been a bit more conservative on social issues (of course he was President almost 40 years ago).

Out comes the moral relativism. LIFE is every bit as important today as it was 40 or 400 or 4000 years ago. Moral relativists like yourself seem to think that moral principles can change based on convenience, they don't.

Rudy is far more conservative on issue that really matter to a Presidency. Issues like Defense, Homeland Security, Taxation.

First of all, there is no evidence of this. I have yet to see where Rooty Toot plans to lower taxes. And defense is neither a conservative nor liberal issue (the fact that most conservatives support the war and most liberals oppose it notwithstanding). Moreoever, all of the major Democrat candidates are now on record saying that they will continue to fight the war, so that issue is now off the table for Rooty Toot.

More Americans have died in abortuaries THIS WEEK than have died in the war on terror, why is it that you don't think THEY are important?

137 posted on 10/05/2007 6:57:50 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia; wagglebee; xzins
Don’t insult me by accusing me of not having principles because I don’t agree with your position on abortion.

I asked you whether you had any CORE principles. I suspect that you, like most people, do have plenty of principles, but the questions is whether or not you are willing to sacrifice those principles for political expediency? If they are CORE principles, then you would not be willing to sacrifice them.

I don’t believe in abortion on demand, especially mid and late term abortions, but I don’t object to limited abortions.

Why? If the thing being aborted is not a human being, then why would you care if it is removed from the womb? If it were just a glob of tissue, then nobody would care if it were removed. The fact that you don't believe in "abortion on demand" suggests to me that you believe that there is a human being in the womb, and if that is true, then abortion is murder.

In my opinion, going back to making criminals of women that choose abortion is not good policy.

They never made criminals out of the women. They made criminals out of the doctors.

Better policy is to facilitate adoption, discourage abortion with better education.

What would we teach? That fetuses are not human beings or that they are human beings?

If the former, then why should we discourage abortion at all?

If the latter, then why should we permit abortion at all?

138 posted on 10/05/2007 7:02:44 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
The RNC should nominate a real conservative and watch him Win in a landslide!

I agree, but the GOP is dominated by morons. It's telling that the most conservative candidate in the current primary field, Duncan Hunter, is near the bottom of the polls, and the most liberal, Rudy, is at the top. A lot of that is due to the country club RINO faction's nonsensical insistence that Rudy is the only Republican who can defeat Hillary, but even so only the most gullible or wishy-washy example of a so-called conservative would buy that specious argument and even think of voting for him in the primaries.

IMHO a nationally well known conservative would win against any of the current Democrat contenders if the Repub primary voters had the b***s to nominate someone like that, but too many of us have bought into the country-clubbers' lie that a real conservative can't win the White House. Maybe that isn't a lie in this day and age, but I would like to at least see it proved true before I will buy it myself.

139 posted on 10/05/2007 7:21:01 AM PDT by epow ("The best we can hope for the people is that they be suitably armed" Alexander Hamilton)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Rudy is far more conservative on issue that really matter to a Presidency. Issues like Defense, Homeland Security, Taxation.

That depends on how you define conservative. It is a fact terrorists have infiltrated the U.S. by posing as terrorists yet Giuliani supports granting amnesty to illegal aliens! It is an invitation for terrorists to destroy this country from within. His idea of national security is dangerous for Americans.
140 posted on 10/05/2007 7:21:24 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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