85% of the DNA of the original post Ice Age settlers to Britain is still there.
I am yDNA haplogroup R1b as are 90% of the Irish. I just discovered yesterday that if your DYS-390 component is 23 instead of 24...you're likely to be German-Scandanavian. I'm probably a Viking or Anglo-Saxon invader? Still an Atlantic Modal Haplotype I believe.
GGG Ping.
This sad little lizard told me that he was a brontosaurus on his mother’s side.
I did not laugh; people who boast of ancestry often have little else to sustain them.
Humoring them costs nothing and adds to happiness in a world in which happiness is always in short supply.
LAZARUS LONG
O’ppenheimer, a grand old Irish name!
Genetics tells one story. Language patterns tell a different story.
Oxford’s Bryan Sykes, who invented the genetic population testing method, has written some interesting books on this subject, too. In “Blood of the Isles,” he wrote that neither Anglo-Saxons nor other population groups have much impact on the genetics of the inhabitants of the UK, except for Iberians, and that British ancestry can be traced back mainly to Spain. Fascinating information. I heartily recommend his “The Seven Daughters of Eve.”
Well, at least they’re not claiming to be descendants of a full blooded Cherokee Indian princess...............
Well, Buaidh no bas, anyway!
Forgot to say: great post, blam.
Bump for a later read. Someday I hope to do the DNA te$ting...right now I can’t. My late father (1st generation Irish) always said we were ‘Black Irish’ (no...not the Spanish Aramada tale, just darker hair/skin than your idea of Irish). Thanks for the post.
I thought the Romans left about 430, and the Saxons invaded when the collpase of the Pax Romanae gave them the opportunity. The Angles were there already at the start of the Roman occupation. Did not a Roman say, upon seeing their complexion and hair color, "Not Angles, but Angels?"
So we Irish can blame the Vikings for our drinking? No wonder they behaved so badly.
Which test would you recommend, Oppenheims’s or NG? Oppy has a lot of products and it’s hard to tell what to order. Any suggestions? My grandparents are from Ireland and probably Scotland. There’s some German in there, too.
This is true with virtually all invasions --especially with the European influx into the Americas over the past 500 years. We get the appearance of conquest and replacement, while the substance is assimilation.
Great post!
Actually the Oppenheimer clan testing http://www.ethnoancestry.com/oppenheimer.html is part of Ethnoancestry at http://www.ethnoancestry.com/index.htm
They are the folks with numerous tests. Oppy is just one of them.
There are just too "surprising" results from these type of historical/genetic investigations for me to put much credence in these type of results. If it were occasionally a surprising result, it would be one thing. But there seem to be just too many counter-intuitive results for me to credit them. Britain is largely of *Basque* ancestry? At least it wasn't Finnish, Korean, or Mayan, I guess, but it still doesn't strike me as likely.
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