Posted on 09/28/2007 7:42:35 AM PDT by blam
85% of the DNA of the original post Ice Age settlers to Britain is still there.
I am yDNA haplogroup R1b as are 90% of the Irish. I just discovered yesterday that if your DYS-390 component is 23 instead of 24...you're likely to be German-Scandanavian. I'm probably a Viking or Anglo-Saxon invader? Still an Atlantic Modal Haplotype I believe.
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O’ppenheimer, a grand old Irish name!
Genetics tells one story. Language patterns tell a different story.
Oxford’s Bryan Sykes, who invented the genetic population testing method, has written some interesting books on this subject, too. In “Blood of the Isles,” he wrote that neither Anglo-Saxons nor other population groups have much impact on the genetics of the inhabitants of the UK, except for Iberians, and that British ancestry can be traced back mainly to Spain. Fascinating information. I heartily recommend his “The Seven Daughters of Eve.”
Well, at least they’re not claiming to be descendants of a full blooded Cherokee Indian princess...............
He's a British Jew who says his name is derived from the town name of Oppenheim, Germany.
It is? How much Anglo-Saxon is left after the French invaded in 1066? It is rare to find the raw guttural, monosyllabic, Germanic words in modern English. He who rules get to set the what language is spoken.
I have to say that language patterns, while useful and interesting to study, are in a certain sense subjective. And anyone can learn any language, regardless of their DNA. The blood evidence, uncovered by the scientific method, is irrefutable.
Well, Buaidh no bas, anyway!
Forgot to say: great post, blam.
Bump for a later read. Someday I hope to do the DNA te$ting...right now I can’t. My late father (1st generation Irish) always said we were ‘Black Irish’ (no...not the Spanish Aramada tale, just darker hair/skin than your idea of Irish). Thanks for the post.
I recommend Syke's newest book too: Saxons, Vikings, and Celts: The Genetic Roots of Britain and Ireland . A very good book and easy to read. Oppenheimer's is the better of the two though.
I thought the Romans left about 430, and the Saxons invaded when the collpase of the Pax Romanae gave them the opportunity. The Angles were there already at the start of the Roman occupation. Did not a Roman say, upon seeing their complexion and hair color, "Not Angles, but Angels?"
I can't say for sure, but I've heard that Winston Churchill's soundbite "We shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight them in the fields, we shall fight them in the hills. We shall never surrender." Is composed 100% of words derived from Anglo-Saxon -- with one exception: surrender is derived from French.
Just finished that one a couple of months ago. All of his are excellent. For my birthday I am giving myself an analysis from his group at Oxford, figuring I can share it with my sister, at least! I will have to dip into Oppenheimer.
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