Uh..er...that would be South America.
A bit far away from England.
Geographically, culturally, and genetically.
The man who plans to tell the British that their history is all wrong:
Just another Mugabe in disguise.
Posted on 09/25/2007 6:41:35 PM PDT by blam
'Rewrite British history to reflect other cultures'
By Christopher Hope, Home Affairs Correspondent
Last Updated: 11:48pm BST 25/09/2007
Parts of British history need to be rewritten to emphasise the roles played by other races and religions like Muslims, a prominent race relations campaigner has said.
Trevor Philips, the chairman of the new Commission for Equalities and Human Rights, said the history of Britain did not properly reflect the contribution of other cultures.
Rewriting the country’s history would demonstrate to Britons in the 21st century how other groups apart from Anglo Saxons shaped the nation.
He told a fringe meeting at the Labour conference: "We may need to revisit our national story – we want to rewrite that story to tell the whole story."
The rewriting should start with the story of how the English fleet led by Sir Francis Drake fought off the Spanish Armada in 1588, he said.
The important role played by the Muslim Turks, who delayed the sailing of the Spanish fleet so that the English ships were better prepared, had been airbrushed out of the story however.
Mr Phillips said: "When we talk about the Armada, it was the Turks who saved us because they held up the Armada after a request from Elizabeth I.
"Let’s rewrite that, so we have an ideal that brings us together so that it can bind us together in stormy times ahead in the next century."
Mr Phillips, the former chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality, declined to offer any other examples of parts of British history that should be rewritten.
He also said that he supported a campaign by the musician Billy Bragg for a new written constitution to define what it means to be British in the 21st century.
"We have to have an expression that is native and right for us," he said.
"We have to have a more explicit set of understandings under which we can all live together."
Mr Phillips, who was educated at Queen’s College Boys School in Guyana, also suggested that there should be a set celebration for when people were given British nationality.
Nationality lessons were necessary because people were moving around the country more than ever before, providing less opportunities to integrate. Last year 6.5 million people moved house, he said.
Earlier this week Mr Phillips said that economic migrants could be forced to make a bigger contribution to the cost of public services.
Mr Phillips said that some migrants who stay in the UK only for a short time should pay more for the use of schools and hospitals.
Revisionist history, a tool of cultural Marxists.
What load of nonsense. History is most Western nations is becoming nothing more than a hodgepodge of the contributions of the ________s, and the ________s and the ________s, and the ________s aren’t being sufficiently recognized.
The real history that created the nations so many others want to be a part of is being abandoned so we can be ‘inclusive’ and say a few kind (and maybe true, maybe not) words about the ________s and the ________s and the ________s, etc., etc.
And there’s no shortage of wimpy, guilt-ridden whites to go along with it.
“Muslims, Muslims, Muslims. I get sick of hearing about Muslims. I’m sick of stroking their pathetic, barbarous egos.”
Probably twenty years ago, the first time I ever heard of or saw James Zogby (head of some Arab-American organization), he was on CSPAN whining and whining about how the contributions of Arab-Americans hadn’t been sufficiently recognized.
George Orwell must be rolling in his grave.
- John
Yes, certainly a scholarly piece of research would be appropriate. Regrettably I have read many years ago, that Queen Elizabeth 1st, was notably careful with her treasury. The sea dogs ran short of powder and cannon balls. I did read that the heroes of the British navy were not paid off after the Armada was dispersed. They roamed around sea ports, desperate for food.
All this is something that I am unable to source at this point. We were taught in the English schools of a shattered remnant of the great galleons limped back to Spain. Even the Irish were against them as they rounded the British Isles( so it was said).
Trevor Phillips is a black Labour politician born in London. He actually defended free speech though against muslim indignation re cartoons in Europe. (source Wikipedia).
Meanwhile I return to Winston Churchill's, RIVER WAR. The defeat of the Islamic forces in the Sudan 1898.
While they are glorifying the Ottoman Turks, they should calculate how many Englishmen were captured by Turks while sailing in the Mediterranean, and spent the remainder of their lives as galley slaves or in a dungeon hoping to be ransomed.
And let us not forget the vital contribution that the Muslims made to the Crusades.
Drake’s raid on Lisbon, where he burnt the barrels that were to be used to store provisions on the voyage was supposed to have been the primary delay, as I remember Mattingly.
Uh..er...that would be South America.
A bit far away from England.
Geographically, culturally, and genetically.
The man who plans to tell the British that their history is all wrong:
Just another Mugabe in disguise.
One of the funniest books ever written!
‘George Orwell must be rolling in his grave.’
I doubt it, Eric Blair was a dyed-in-the-wool socialist - he’d probably agree.
Don’t hold your breath for the re-written version. . . . . ;-)
Yes, Orwell/Eric Blair was a dedicated socialist, BUT, he detested cant and political correctness of any kind, so I doubt he could have viewed this kind of virulent revisionism with anything but contempt. Sure, he might have gone for a milder revision of the history of the English sea dogs vs. the Spanish Armada that gave more weight to the role of weather and circumstance over English heroism, but he was not the type to accept Muslim propaganda about a fictitious role for the Ottoman Empire where there was none.
I agree, having read Orwell's essays. One thing is true and it is must be stated first. Orwell served as an officer in the now named Myanmar- Burma. He so destested the treatment of the Burmese, that he turned against colonialism.
Two incidents show Orwell's attitude toward doctrinaire socialists. Public funding of elite "public schools" the preparation of the ruling classes, were to be cut off (promised the socialists). Orwell taxed a leading socialist about the promise. The socialist told Orwell, he saw it as a chance to SEND HIS CHILDREN to the same bastions of privilege. Orwell was horified.
In his book "Road to Wigan Pier", Orwell went up north to the impoverished industrial districts. He then observed Union leaders, paid up comfortable salaries by pay check off. Orwell was bemused, when the life style they adopted and their attitude was exactly the same as the middle-class English. The people who generally were hand in glove with the authorities. I might add from personal experience many of them the most sanctimonious holier than thou humans.
No one detested the established socialist any more than George Orwell/Eric Blair.
Interesting information, back to the history books for me. (chuckle)
England's defeat of the Spanish Armada 400 years ago changed the course of European history and immortalised Sir Francis Drake, but new research suggests he had help from an unexpected quarter -- the Turks.
An academic argued on Tuesday that the Armada had been weakened before it even set sail for England because the Spanish had been forced to keep some ships in the Mediterranean to deal with the troublesome Turkish navy.
"If the Armada had been bigger it would have taken Britain," said Dr Jerry Brotton.
"The Armada was fatally weakened by having to leave some of its ships in the Mediterranean," added Brotton, a lecturer in Renaissance Studies at Queen Mary, University of London.
The destruction of the Armada in 1588 ensured the survival of the Protestant faith throughout Europe, cemented England as a sea power and ushered in a decline in the fortunes of Spain.
The battle made a national hero of Drake, who according to legend -- if not hard historical fact -- insisted on finishing his game of bowls as the Armada approached.
Brotton said England had deliberately set out to enlist the Turks to harry the Spanish and tie down their forces.
"Correspondence shows that Walsingham (Queen Elizabeth's spymaster) used diplomats to keep the Turks fighting the Spanish," he told Reuters.
But the view that it was the Turks and not Drake who should be accorded the battle honours is not shared by all historians.
Dr Simon Adams, co-author of "England, Spain and the Grand Armada" argues the Ottoman Turks were not threatening the Spanish in the Mediterranean.
"The Walsingham letter had been sent in 1584 or 1585 and although England might have hoped the Turks would cause the Spanish problems, nothing really happened," he told Reuters.
"The Turks were not really doing anything (against Spain) in 1588. They were busy in the near east," added the University of Strathclyde academic.
Adams said the Armada failed because the expedition was poorly planned and the English had an effective navy helped by favourable weather.
Also interesting
It was in 1563 at the Battle of Lepanto that the Spanish Armada decimated the Turkish navy. This meant the end of Turkish control in the Mediterranean. It must not be forgotten as well, that the royal house of Spain intermarried now with the Hapsburg Dynasty in Austria, so that if the Turks were besieging Vienna, Austria, then Spain had to fight on the side of the Austrians. It must not be forgotten that the Turks were "parked" outside the gates of Vienna for 200 years!
It is also interesting for me as former American student that we were never taught about the Battle of Lepanto of 1563, but we were taught about the English/Dutch victory over the Spanish Armada in 1588, because it was a victory of the Protestants over the Catholics! But such a milestone victory of the Catholics over the Islamic Turks which saved Europe from being overwhelmed by Islam went untaught in American schools because this time, it was a Catholic victory.
They can also mention the important role Polish RAF Pilots played in the “Battle of Britain.”
Since that wasn't part of England's history (directly), he probably could care less. Europe as a whole has done all it can to avoid all mention of that battle, and subsequent ones of similar nature.
More recent accounts of the battle are dismissive of the Franks' military performance at Tours, claiming that the Muslim line only broke because they feared that the Franks would steal the booty that they'd gathered in their sweep across southern Europe.
Those piles of plunder were in the *rear*, so if they were threatened, it's because Martel's troops had already penetrated the enemy lines.
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