Teens Held Without Bond in Girl's Slaying (hate crime?)

WRAL Web Site ^ | 9/25/2007 | Bryan Mims

[N3WBI3]

LOL A whole thread of people who were screaming ‘hate crime’ and when I point out that the evidence does not seem to indicate that it was racial all I hear is ‘ ut you were not there’

[Travis McGee]

The politicians, the educators, and the welfare queens have been telling blacks for the past 40 years that the white racists are oppressing them, and at least some of them have probably learned that lesson. When you demonize white for 40 years for political purposes, who can be surprised if black youths start taking it seriously?

Bingo. They are just (in their minds) striking back at the white oppressor, as they have been told all their lives.

[FreedomPoster]

Thanks for the link. Great article, and in looking into her work and bio, she’s doing some interesting writing.

[Travis McGee]

"At 12, had my daughter been home alone, she would have access to several firearms, and the skill to use them properly. It may be a shame to raise kids as warriors, but in a world full of barbarians I see no other choice."

No shame I can see.

[Cicero]

The whole business is tragic, with kids shooting kids.

I was thinking about this after I read it, and asked myself, which would I rather be, a parent whose child stayed home from school with a strep throat and was murdered, or a parent whose kid went out and murdered an innocent young girl?

I really don’t know the answer to that question, because both alternatives are so horrible.

People point out that black on black crime is a terrible because so many blacks are victims. But if I were black, I’d be even more concerned about my fellow blacks who were criminals. The criminals are the real problem, and they don’t lead happy lives.

In this case, the girl is dead, and these three black kids have wrecked their own lives.

[Travis McGee]

Well, one way of looking at your question is to say that you would have 1/2 of a 70% chance of not giving a damn about what your (black) kid had done. That is, most of these kids don’t have a father to give a damn either way.

Sad.

[Cicero]

Pat Buchanan was right, when he spoke to LBJ about his research on the growing problem of dissolving black families. But instead, LBJ saw it as a political opportunity to put them on the Democrat plantation.

[Cicero]

Did I say Pat Buchanan? GOod grief. Time for bed.

[Clemenza]

That was Pat Moynihan. Pat Buchanan was a cub reporter in St. Louis back then.

[Jack Black]

Now, only a fool would conclude that race had anything to do with their being serial killers.Really? I bet the FBI is full of fools then, because I'm sure that when they go looking for other serial killers they pretty much look for white men. Profiling, I believe it is called. I have no problem with it, even when the group being profiled includes me.

I would conclude that race is a factor in serial killing, based on these stats and the fact that there is not a corresponding list of Black or Asian serial killers. Culture? Genetics? Who knows. But it is too big a coincidence to ignore and claim that noticing it is foolish.

[wardaddy]

poverty really hs nothing to do with thug kulture....no daddies and slutty mommies are the culprit

i try to tell folks here that white on black racism pales compared to the reverse these days

anyone listen?

even here...not much

quite a dream King had....glad it’s worked out so well.

[wardaddy]

Trumandoggie is our resident apologizer for black on white crime..

a denier actually

but to be fair...he/she is polite

[wardaddy]

What I would like is a comparison of black lynching victims from Jim Crow era juxtaposed with the number of whites murdered by blacks since 1964.

Some guy from Australia actually went to the trouble....it’s on that site Michelle links

the results are astounding..

so who’s the real victim here?

i quit rolling over...all that stuff everyone hoped for 40 years ago has been prostitued out and mutated into some monster that makes hell for decent blacks and a lot whites

folks who don’t live near urban black environs are clueless and full of themselves and obviously...will deny FBI stats even if they fell on them

they will say “crime of opportunity”, “James Byrd”, “but there are more white folks to make victims of”...completely ignoring how usually blacks have to go out of their way to target whites

my solution....no more coddling and lying....publicly scorn thug culture and those who enable white hating marauders same as we do the klan...no politician i know has the juevos...none....crackers would rather get castrated then be called racist

we’d have to basically start over with a new generation of black kids and give them daddies and a new generation of white idiots to debrainwash

my grandfather told me in 1963 when I was 6 years old in Mississippi and he was aligned with Evers (Charlie)..at risk to himself btw. He lamented that he feared we would create a class of dependence which would become resentment and ultimately contempt.

Yankees and postmodern youth today have no inkling that even once segregationist southerners felt a moral responsibility for blacks going way back. They may not have wanted to cede power to them but they felt they had to take care of them .

All this evolution of dependence and what that has bred comes from that. The Radical Republicans of Reconstruction felt that way too....they just didn’t want it in their backyard.

[Travis McGee]

And I fear we’ve seen almost nothing compared to what is to come, especially if the economy well and truly tanks, and Uncle Sugar can’t bail everybody out with welfare.

[Main Street]

Jack, don’t be too sure.....

“Although a predominantly North American activity, serial killing is on the rise in all points of the globe. Particularly, with shifts in the geopolitical world order, serial killing has become part of the national landscape in South Africa....there has been a dramatic increase in the amount of black serial killers. Even historically peaceful places like Costa Rica now have a serial killer. -”Killers on the Loose: Unsolved Cases of Serial Murder”, Published by Virgin Books

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“A sociology professor recently debunked the myth that whites are over-represented, and blacks under-represented, as offenders in serial murders. He estimated that about 20% of serial killers have been black though they represent only 13% of the population. Though yes, most serial murders have been white(about 60 - 65%), they have actually constituted just below their actual numbers to their corresponding percentage of the US population, where as blacks have actually committed more than their share, but still less overall only because they’re such a small numerical demograhpic.

This is the same stastical trick that is used when reporting Hate Crime stastistics. They always compare white crime with that of blacks and only report the raw figures - always omitting the huge disparity in percentage of population of the two demographics.”

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Below is a non-complete list of some black serial killers in the USA.....

(The number of victims are in parentheses.)

‘Zebra Killers’ (78+) San Francisco, CA

Coral Eugene Watts (13+, with estimates as high as 80) Houston, Texas

Wayne Williams (33) Atlanta, GA

Vaughn Greenwood (11) Los Angeles, CA

Calvin Jackson (9+) New York, NY

Gregory Klepper (8) Chicago, ILL

Anthony and Nathaniel Cook (9+) Toledo, OH

Alton Coleman & Debra Brown (8) Midwest

Harrison Graham (7+) Philadelphia, PA

Cleophus Prince (6) San Diego, CA

Robert Rozier (4+) Miami, FL

Craig Price (3) Warwick, RI

Devine Jones (3+) St. Louis

Maurice Byrd (20+) St. Louis

Maury Travis (17+) St. Louis

Henry Louis Wallace(9+) Charlotte, NC

Kendall Francois (8) Poughkeepsie, New York

Carlton Gary (7+) Columbus, Georgia

Howard Allen (4+) Indianapolis , Ind

William Hance (3+) Columbus, Georgia

George Walterfield Russell Jr. (3) Mercer Island, WA

Andre Crawford (10) Chicago, ILL

Eugene Britt (11+) Gary, Indiana

Benjamin Atkins (11) Highland Park, MI

Nathaniel Code (8+) Shreveport, Louisiana

Vincent Groves (17) Denver, CO

James Pough (11) Jacksonville, FL

Richard Tipton (11) Richmond, VA

John Muhammad (10+) The Belt-Way Sniper

Ref.: ‘Black serial killers not so uncommon’- June 22, 2003

Ref.: ‘Serial Killing Is No Longer A White Folks Thing’ -Earl Ofari Hutchinson, Oct. 31, 2002