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Apeing the Washington Post, I see.
1 posted on 09/24/2007 2:00:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Naturally. Canadians are mainly the lapdogs of US liberals.


2 posted on 09/24/2007 2:20:51 AM PDT by counterpunch (Mitt and Kerry wish you a great Pride Weekend.)
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The Founding Fathers of the United States asserted their claim to freedom and independence on the basis of certain "self-evident" truths about the human person: truths which could be discerned in human nature, built into it by "nature’s God." Thus they meant to bring into being, not just an independent territory, but a great experiment in what George Washington called "ordered liberty": an experiment in which men and women would enjoy equality of rights and opportunities in the pursuit of happiness and in service to the common good. Reading the founding documents of the United States, one has to be impressed by the concept of freedom they enshrine: a freedom designed to enable people to fulfill their duties and responsibilities toward the family and toward the common good of the community. Their authors clearly understood that there could be no true freedom without moral responsibility and accountability, and no happiness without respect and support for the natural units or groupings through which people exist, develop, and seek the higher purposes of life in concert with others.

The American democratic experiment has been successful in many ways. Millions of people around the world look to the United States as a model in their search for freedom, dignity, and prosperity. But the continuing success of American democracy depends on the degree to which each new generation, native-born and immigrant, makes its own the moral truths on which the Founding Fathers staked the future of your Republic. Their commitment to build a free society with liberty and justice for all must be constantly renewed if the United States is to fulfill the destiny to which the Founders pledged their "lives . . . fortunes . . . and sacred honor."

John Paul II

3 posted on 09/24/2007 2:34:04 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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it was the Soviet Union's victories in the east that broke Nazi Germany's back and led to the liberation of Europe

Pure Marxist BS. The Russians got to Berlin eating American grown food, marching in American made boots, supplied by American made trucks, with weapons repaired and maintained by American made tools carried to the Russians on American made trains. Since Easter Europe were not a freed by the Sovs, and only American lead Cold War made them free from either Nazi or Sov domination, Thompson's statement is correct and this author a silly ass.

4 posted on 09/24/2007 2:47:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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But wait, we actually care what every Canadian blame-America-first pseudo-intellectual revisionist crap weasel thinks...

Just kidding.

5 posted on 09/24/2007 2:52:17 AM PDT by TNPatriot (No arsenal ... is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. -RR)
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LMAO, this is some pretty humorous stuff. Fred’s wife cajoled him into running...

I thought the student editor, or at lest the teacher would give thumbs up or down on eighth grade diatribes like this.

I’ll bet the kid got free hamburgers for a week and enough acne jel to last for three months for writing this sophmoric fender bender.


6 posted on 09/24/2007 3:05:26 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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He made Fred’s case very nicely. We are slow to enter wars and we do so for the benefit of freedom.


7 posted on 09/24/2007 3:13:43 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: jellybean; Politicalmom

Ping.

Here’s one for the FRead, jb.


8 posted on 09/24/2007 3:26:57 AM PDT by upchuck (Psychiatrists have labeled George Bush's South-of-the-Border obsession as mexicosis. ~ firehat)
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"Of course the Soviets replaced Nazi chains with their own...But the same can be said about the American record."

"the Soviets only got into the war after being attacked"

Nazi-Soviet Pact...Russo-Finnish War.

9 posted on 09/24/2007 3:30:46 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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So this guy basically makes tha accusation that there are a group of see-no-evil Americans who will react in a certain way to the statements he makes and then, naturally the FR horde proves him right.

The real point to be made here is not necessarily what gets a country into a war. It is what that country does after it wins a war. Those nations that were “liberated” by the Soviets are now just emerging from their half-century of “liberation”. Whereas within 15 years of being occupied by America, most countries are paragons of freedom, wealth and responsibility.

The problem with Iraq was by no means the motive or intention - it was the unbelievably incompetent and negligent mismanagement that is inherent in this administration. WWII gives some very good lessons as to the number of boots on the ground it takes to win the peace.


10 posted on 09/24/2007 3:40:43 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Everyone wants a simple answer; but sometimes there isn't a simple answer)
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“In eight foreign wars since the late 19th century, the Post found, 623,288 Americans lost their lives. But Soviet losses in the Second World War alone were an order of magnitude greater than that and it was the Soviet Union’s victories in the east that broke Nazi Germany’s back and led to the liberation of Europe.”

This guys about as nutty as a fruitcake. The Soviets weren’t sacrificing their lives for the freedom of others. They weren’t even sacrificing their lives for their own freedom. They were defending Joe Stalin.


11 posted on 09/24/2007 3:41:44 AM PDT by Brilliant
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This comment set Mark Steyn firmly against Fred Thompson.
If I were running for President and could have only on fan in the press and commentary circles, it would be Mark Steyn.

Steyn wrote, "Sorry, guys, if that's the level of bragadocio required, include me out. It should not be necessary in "supporting our troops" to denigrate everybody's else."
12 posted on 09/24/2007 3:54:49 AM PDT by elizabetty (Don't Taze Me Bro')
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“Thus, Hillary has little experience in management and less in elective office. She has no original ideas that anyone has been able to discern. She has embraced no particular cause. She just seems terribly interested in being president; it is widely believed her smart and ambitious wife cajoled her into running.”


14 posted on 09/24/2007 3:58:26 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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In eight foreign wars since the late 19th century

And yet he only mentions a few... what about the rest of the eight? How did we fail to fight for freedom in Korea and the others? And interesting that he fails to note the most important, and bloodiest, American war... the American Civil War, where each side was fighting for freedom, as they saw it.

19 posted on 09/24/2007 5:17:44 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; EarthBound

“relaxed work ethic”

Liberal buzz-words for “limited government”.

They see a laissze faire (sp?) government as *lazy*.


20 posted on 09/24/2007 5:23:15 AM PDT by MacDorcha (We have been at war with this mindset since before the Socratic method was borne.)
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This guy says it was the USSR who broke the Nazi’s back and that the USSR only invades when attacked. What about Poland?

What about all the countries under Communism which were made part of the USSR after WWII? Can Mr. Gardner likewise show which countries we ‘claimed’ for the USA? USSR took half of Germany. If we hadn’t been there, all of Europe would have been behind the ‘iron curtain’.

This Gardner guy is NO student of history OR facts. Someone needs to confront him and teach him the difference between truth and lies.


21 posted on 09/24/2007 6:18:28 AM PDT by Dudoight
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Soviets won WWII for us -

straight out of the USSR History books.


22 posted on 09/24/2007 6:20:56 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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Nothing to apologize for. Never did anything wrong in 231 years of history. Nothing.

Oh, you have to love leftists.

Let me re-phrase the above into what we hear from the left:
"Nothing to be proud of. Never did anything noble in 231 years of history. Nothing."

You know, this is great, actually. A leftist getting upset because a candidate isn't trashing his country. All we have to do, folks, is draw them out and expose them, and the battle is won.

24 posted on 09/24/2007 6:25:54 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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'You know," drawled Fred Thompson at a recent rally in Des Moines, Iowa,...

Imagine the liberal press beginning an article this way...

Okay so there isn't an "s" in 'You know', but you get my point.

28 posted on 09/24/2007 7:06:06 AM PDT by FreeReign
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Dan Gardner.

Small little man with a small little mind, in a small little cubicle, somewhere in Ottawa,

Fiercely typing away, on a spittle specked keyboard, about his rabid jealousy of, and hatred for, America and Americans.

Sad little fellow.

Pity him if you can.

40 posted on 09/24/2007 9:30:11 AM PDT by Col Freeper
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Thompson and his speechwriters know that a large swath of the American public believes the United States, alone in the world, fights wars to liberate oppressed people far away. America may occasionally make mistakes -- only very rarely, of course -- but it is always pure of heart.

The writer is a liar. Fred said neither of these things and most conservatives believe neither of these things. Fred said, and most conservatives believe, that America has done more for others' liberty and that America is usually relatively goodhearted.

41 posted on 09/24/2007 11:30:45 AM PDT by rogue yam
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