Posted on 09/23/2007 10:53:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Ron Paul = Hillary on the War; Rudy Giuliani = Hillary on abortion, gay rights, gun control, illegal aliens, etc. Neither are conservative. Neither are Republican. I would no more vote for the "Republican antiwar candidate" Ron Paul or the "Republican pro-choice candidate" Rudy Giuliani than I would the treasonous butcher Hillary Klintoon.
JMHO.
Color me skeptical, but I'll wait to see. My liberal friends are still Hillary fans. In fact, most of them, even though they like MoveOn in general, were thoroughly grossed out by the Betray Us ad, and feel Hillary did the right thing to disown it.
But we're a year from the election, and a lot of other things are going to take precedence by then -- this ruckus about the ad will be a ripple in the pond. And the war might be a very different beast at that point too, especially if we're involved with Iran by then. Or God forbid we've been hit by another attack.
Oh I hope not. The Paulinati are so adorable...
‘Color me skeptical, but I’ll wait to see.’
Just look at the posts at DU or the midgets site, dailykos. They thought Hillary Clinton was just ‘peachy’ til yesterday morning.
” My liberal friends are still Hillary fans.”
There aren’t enough of them.
“In fact, most of them, even though they like MoveOn in general, were thoroughly grossed out by the Betray Us ad, and feel Hillary did the right thing to disown it. “
Its telling Clinton waited over a week to denounce it, and even more telling your ‘liberal friends’ are okay either way.
The so called ‘moderate Democrats’ are going extinct, the ones that made the DLC what it was up until a couple of years ago.
Nah, they ain’t that good...
Dr. Paul's consistent voting record prompted one Congressman to comment that "Ron Paul personifies the Founding Fathers' ideal of the citizen-statesman. He makes it clear that his principles will never be compromised, and they never are." Another Congresswoman added that "There are few people in public life who, through thick and thin, rain or shine, stick to their principles. Ron Paul is one of those few."
Clearly we can't have a nut like this in the White House. After all, we wouldn't want to set a precedent of electing someone who actually believes that oath they all have to take is binding on them, would we? The man is clearly a menace. Yes, we need another RINO to carry on the glorious tradition of unconstitutional wars and out of control spending, further shredding of the Bill of Rights and casting the Constitution out the windows of the White House in bits and pieces. Good thinking, comrade!
And yet on the same thread you say you won't vote for anything but a RINO. It gets curioser and curioser.
Ron is the ONLY constitutionalist running and is certainly not a “nutcase.” You could probably add the IQ’s of the rest of the bunch running against him and it wouldn’t equal Ron’s.
Wow, nice short stay there bub...
Triple E, is that you?
I told you to stay out of JTN’s “Spirit Herb” stash...
Define "constitutionalist." Show me the part of the Constitution that prohibits military action without a declaration of war. Show me the part of the Constitution that says that the Commander-in-Chief is subordinate to Congress
I'm curious, is there some type of Ron Paul forum out there pushing non-conservatives (i.e. libertarians) to join conservative forums like FR to push your nonsense?
A good point. Prior to the adopted wording, the 2nd amendment read
A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms
The italicized portion was dropped out of concern that a state, by designating a group or religion pacifist, could arbitrarily attempt to deny the individual right to bear arms.
A shame they didn't leave the composed of the body of the people in.
I’m withya Jim!
Ya think that set a record for fastest flame-out?
Damn close...
Rut Roh.
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I'm afraid you need to distinguish between democratic party leadership--what you're talking about--and democratic party voters--what I'm talking about.
First of all, you only need to take a brief stroll around the internet (Slashdot, Digg, etc.) to find out that, yes, Ron Paul would get quite a bit of the voting block that I had mentioned. These people are practically drooling over the prospect.
Second of all, the people who vote Democrat are only fractionally liberal, just like the people who vote Republican are only fractionally conservative. Most of them are not even registered Democrats.
You are quite right that Ron Paul's conservative inclinations will be too much for most of the Democrat fringe... but that is hardly relevant, since they would not vote for anyone who wasn't a Democrat.
The point is that we have run pretty much the crappiest counter-media campaign imaginable lately, and a lot of the people we've lost who would otherwise be drawn to the Democratic party are fairly likely to get behind Ron Paul instead.
I suspect whatever the anwers are will be of great disinterest.
He's a legend in his own mind. ;)
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