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New Study Finds Christian Counseling Effectively Assists Leaving Homosexual Life-Style
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | September 18, 2007 | Meg Jalsevac

Posted on 09/22/2007 12:25:11 AM PDT by monomaniac

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To: monomaniac

Yes, but does this stop a love of shopping, showtunes, and leather?


21 posted on 09/22/2007 6:33:21 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Homer1
the drive to procreate is one of humans strongest natural instincts.

even gay sex is driven by the basic instinct to procreate.

WHAT!! you say!

it be true!

now WHAT you have sex with(man, woman, animals, inanimate objects) is a personal choice. Even if the decision is based on phycosis, lust, fear, denial, hatred, or love. Social “rules” of right and wrong are secondary to the base instinct. so are you born gay? or is a choice? (even a unwanted choice? physiological trauma from rape, incest, molestation etc)

I say BOTH!!

Anadotially speaking. I have met men who are way to effeminate..and always where even in childhood. (to the dismay of the parents i might add) No perverted uncle marvin took em behind the woodshed or any such trauma.

Then A young lady I work with was severely beaten by men in here life. And traumatized. She started "hanging out" with some friends who comforted her...She has a nice "friend" now.

-Do believe that racists are born that way?

no...racism is socially taught.

-Do you believe that pedophiles are born that way?

Some people are born with mental problems that can manifest into sexual abnormal behaviur. And some pedophiles can created through rape, incest, molestation, trauma and denial etc.

:P I prefeer da long hair curvy sweet smellin, soft ladies myself...giggity!

22 posted on 09/22/2007 7:05:51 AM PDT by Casaubon (Internet Research Ninja Masta)
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To: monomaniac
IMHO...

People make bad decisions, based upon traumatic experiences all the time (i.e. an abused child can grow up to be a homosexual, or a criminal, or abuse pets, etc.). Those who truly have "their wires crossed" are a VERY small percentage.

23 posted on 09/22/2007 7:13:38 AM PDT by NordP (No running or relenting. The problem will be dealt with. Decisively. Systematically. Permanently.)
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JUst because I put these three examples in the same ( ), doesn’t mean they have any form of equivilance. They are only listed as examples.


24 posted on 09/22/2007 7:19:36 AM PDT by NordP (No running or relenting. The problem will be dealt with. Decisively. Systematically. Permanently.)
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To: monomaniac

Imagine that, Christians were right about homosexuals. Pretty much blows the born homo theory out of the water.

Pray for W and Our Troops


25 posted on 09/22/2007 7:21:46 AM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: Santiago de la Vega

Dispised, where do you live. They are the High Priests of liberalism and are put on a pedastal.

This proves that they are not born homosexual and are recruited by aggressive homosexuals. Reviled and dispised Please!

Pray for W and Our Troops


26 posted on 09/22/2007 7:24:10 AM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: good1

Biology and genetics are pretty cut and dried.

Any gene that is counter to reproduction, for example, the exclusive preference for same sex intercourse (male/male OR female/female), dies out with the carrier.

Homosexuals aren’t generally breeders. It, meaning the homo gene, isn’t reproduced to continue on in the gene pool. So the anathema to “breeders” would, on its own, cause homosexuality to disappear. The “we’re just born that way” as an excuse doesn’t hold up.

So sorry.


27 posted on 09/22/2007 7:06:37 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll
After reading the several responses to my previous post (#8), I think some clarification is needed, although the form I chose for my fist post on this subject was selected psrticularly for its perspicuity in presenting my points.

I do not for a moment justify homosexual behavior by an means. I am only trying to point out that for some reason/whatever reason, some men and women choose to manifest their sin natures via homosexual acts. They are condemned by a holy God for these sins in just the same way the other people are held accountable for their sins. The man who expresses his sin nature by acts of homosexuality is just as guilty before God as the man who expresses his sin nature by acts of heterosexuality outside of marriage.

This why the writer to the Hebrews states that marriage is honorable in all and the bed is undefiled. The heterosexual can express his sexual capacity in marriage and be free from sin in that expression. While the homosexual cannot avoid committing sin in any expression of his sexual capacity.

Repentance and forgiveness is as available to the homosexual as it is to the heterosexual who is exercising his sexual capacity outside the sanctity of marriage. And of course, this points out the main reason that homosexuals are to be denied entering into marriage with another of the same sex.

Homosexual marriage is wrong because it is wrong to be homosexual in the first place.

28 posted on 09/23/2007 7:00:28 PM PDT by good1
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To: Santiago de la Vega
"It ain’t a lifestyle, believe me. No one would choose to join the most despised and reviled minority in the world - ever - unless it was in their genes." Murderers, rapists, pedophiles, terrorists, and crooked politicians choose "behavior" that put them in danger of death and/or incarceration for the rest of there lives. Even faced with great personal risk, they still choose behavior that is reviled by others. Conversely, even though we 'understand' that some disorders like cancer are known to be genetic we do not label them something 'normal' to be celebrated and embraced. Compassion and understanding for homosexuals is scripturally sound but, unfortunately, that is opposite of what gay activists demand.
29 posted on 09/24/2007 12:15:26 PM PDT by UntwistedTruth
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To: Santiago de la Vega
"Forgiveness is the primary Christian virtue, and I don’t see enough of it some times."

Here's how the forgiveness thing works:

The offender realizes the action(s) they have committed are wrong and have violated God's character.

The offender then seeks forgiveness from God by asking for it. That's done by asking that the payment of Jesus Christ on the cross for sins committed by mankind be applied to their sin debt.

The forgiven offender then seeks to avoid the previous pattern of sin, and actively seeks to live as God shows us in the Bible. Turn away from the sin, turn towards God.

Forgiveness isn't just meted out willy-nilly. It's given when it's asked for, because the offender sees their actions as wrong. The principle applies to any sinful act, not just homosexuality.

30 posted on 09/25/2007 10:57:40 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Santiago de la Vega
No one would choose to join the most despised and reviled minority in the world ...

The most despised and reviled minority in the world are white men.

If you had a TV with cable you'd know that homosexuality is actually celebrated pretty much everywhere the beautiful people meet. They even have their own channel.

31 posted on 09/25/2007 11:04:09 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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