Posted on 09/22/2007 12:25:11 AM PDT by monomaniac
I heard it said that sex is 99% in one’s head.
Calling captain obvious...
I don't know about 99 percent but it is undoubtedly the strongest factor. The idea that we are somehow genetically programed for our sexual desires is ridiculous in a age of strange fetishes that couldn't possibly have a genetic component.
It ain’t a lifestyle, believe me.
No one would choose to join the most despised and reviled minority in the world - ever - unless it was in their genes.
Some of us are just born that way.
I’ve got lots of friends in the community, and they can confirm this.
It’s just something some of us have to deal with, and it’d be a lot easier for them to deal with it, if the rest of the world would realize that and try to understand.
Forgiveness is the primary Christian virtue, and I don’t see enough of it some times.
“the most despised and reviled minority in the world”
I really don’t think so. Gay influence in the media, the arts, academia, and Hollywood is total, and guarantees that anyone who publically criticizes homosexuality will be harshly dealt with.
And those who declare that homosexuality is not innate but is something that can be cast off, are the objects of hatred and death threats from the “gay” community.
Here's my $.02 worth on this subject.
In a manner of speaking, I believe that homosexuals are born that way.Here's the way my thinking goes and I'll write it in the form of a resolution.
Whereas all men are born with a sin nature, and
Whereas that sin nature does manifest itself in acts of sin, and
Whereas this manifestation varies between individuals; some to this particular sin, others to another type of sin, and
Whereas God calls homosexuality a sin and does condemn them that practice it,
Therefore, homosexuality is a sin and, like all other sins, is able to being repented of, abandoned, and being forgiven of.
Conclusion: People are born sinners and in some cases homosexuality is the primary way they express/manifest that sinfulness. But they are not born into homosexuality in a way that is unchangeable.
-Do you believe that pedophiles are born that way?
-Do believe that racists are born that way?
theses are two examples of reviled minorities.
No one would choose a life of being a drug addict. No one would choose being a life of a compulsive gambler. But people do and it is not genetic.
That is a huge stretch. What sins people engage in is largely a function of environment not genetics. There might be some genetic component that makes some people more susceptible to being homosexual, but genes don't determine any sin. It is a choice. Look at some of the strange fetishes such as being urinated on, leather, wearing diaper, being whipped, etc. Are these all genetics too? If sexual desire is all genetics, they would have to be.
"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" (Romans 6:1-2)
"Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." (Romans 6:12-14)
To expound on your point, I doesn’t really matter whether homosexual behavior is genetic. As a man, I am “genetically programmed” to want to have sex with a huge variety of women. Nevertheless this would be irresponsible, and my wife expects me to restrain these appetites and channel them into marriage. This is a reasonable expectation, despite my “genetics.”
It is indeed a Christian virtue, and it is worth remembering that while the servants of Christ are imperfect, Christ is always perfect.
I am not sure that gays are the most hated minority in the world. I can think of several others that have it far worse than gays have it.
“I heard it said that sex is 99% in one’s head.”
....and if such sexual thoughts last longer than 4 hours....
A study like this needs to be tested, using hard physical evidence. Interviews may well be unreliable. A suggestion is to use PET sanning as a verification technique.
The way PET scanning could be used is to measure the metabolic response,of the hypothalamus, to human pheromones. There are two suspected pheromones, one derived from testosterone and one derived from estrogen.
There is a differential response between heterosexual males and homosexual males in the response two the different pheromones. Heterosexual males will respond to the pheromone derived from estrogen, but not to the pheromone derived from testosterone. The response is reversed in homosexual males.
The procedure is to test the subjects before they enter a counseling program, then test the subjects, when they claim to be cured. That is certainly a better way to verify the results, than an interview.
I’ve heard the same arguement used to defend crackheads.
And If I recall— Jeffrey Dahmer insisted he was only
looking after the welfare of the boys that he recruited and
subsequently murderded.
It is not the place of a Christian to “forgive” a homosexual, as that homosexual has not done anything directly against them..
Only God can forgive that behavior.
It is not love if a Christian says to the homosexual “you may act as you please.”
As far as people not being able to choose their sex partners, because if they could they would never choose homosexuality, is a bunch of bull.
People don’t want to behave in all sorts of ways, but they still manage to do it. No one “wants” to be a jerk, but jerks exist. No one wants to be a “drug addict”, but there are millions of them. I could go on and on.
It's natural for one to prefer ones own "tribe."
The results look consistent with those of Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, from the National Association for the Reorientation Therapy for Homosexuals(NARTH).
NARTH has been doing this work for years, and fighting the APA’s directives to the contrary.
I wonder why the study’s authors would suggest it’s the first such study.
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