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Iraq expels American security firm
YAHOO NEWS ^ | 17 SEPTEMBER 2007 | AP

Posted on 09/17/2007 2:14:34 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

BAGHDAD - The Iraqi government Monday ordered Blackwater USA, the security firm that protects U.S. diplomats, to stop work and leave the country after the fatal shooting of eight Iraqi civilians following a car bomb attack against a State Department convoy.

The order by the Interior Ministry, if carried out, would deal a severe blow to U.S. government operations in Iraq by stripping diplomats, engineers, reconstruction officials and others of their security protection.

The presence of so many visible, aggressive Western security contractors has angered many Iraqis, who consider them a mercenary force that runs roughshod over people in their own country.

Sunday's shooting was the latest in a series of incidents in which Blackwater and other foreign contractors have been accused of shooting to death an unknown number of Iraqi citizens. None has faced charges or prosecution.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice telephoned Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki late Monday and the two agreed to conduct a "fair and transparent investigation" and hold any wrongdoers accountable, said Yassin Majid, an adviser to the prime minister. Rice was expected to visit the Mideast on Tuesday.

A State Department official confirmed the call but said he could not describe the substance.

But it was clear that the U.S. hoped the Iraqis would be satisfied with an investigation, a finding of responsibility and compensation to the victims' families — and not insist on expelling a company that the Americans cannot operate here without.

Interior Ministry spokesman Abdul-Karim Khalaf said eight civilians were killed and 13 were wounded when contractors believed to be working for Blackwater USA opened fire on civilians Sunday in the predominantly Sunni neighborhood of Mansour in western Baghdad.

"We have canceled the license of Blackwater and prevented them from working all over Iraqi territory. We will also refer those involved to Iraqi judicial authorities," Khalaf said.

He said witness reports pointed to Blackwater involvement but added that the shooting was still under investigation. One witness, Hussein Abdul-Abbas, said the explosion was followed by about 20 minutes of heavy gunfire and "everybody in the street started to flee immediately."

U.S. officials said the motorcade was traveling through Nisoor Square on the way back to the Green Zone when the car bomb exploded, followed by volleys of small-arms fire that disabled one of the vehicles but caused no American casualties.

According to TIME.com, which obtained a U.S. incident report, a separate convoy arriving to help was "blocked/surrounded by several Iraqi police and Iraqi national guard vehicles and armed personnel."

American officials refused to discuss Iraqi casualties, nor would they confirm that Blackwater personnel were involved. They also refused to explain the legal authority under which Blackwater operates in Iraq or say whether the company was complying with the order. It also was unclear whether the contractors involved in the shooting were still in Iraq.

Several phone messages left Monday at Blackwater's office in North Carolina and with a spokeswoman were not returned.

The incident drew attention to one of the controversial American practices of the war — the use of heavily armed private security contractors who Iraqis complain operate beyond the control of U.S. military and Iraqi law.

The events in Mansour also illustrate the challenge of trying to protect U.S. officials in a city where car bombs can explode at any time, and where gunmen blend in with the civilian population.

"The Blackwater guys are not fools. If they were gunning down people, it was because they felt it was the beginning of an ambush," said Robert Young Pelton, an independent military analyst and author of the book "Licensed to Kill."

"They're famous for being very aggressive. They use their machine guns like car horns. But it's not the goal to kill people."

In one of the most horrific attacks of the war, four Blackwater employees were ambushed and killed in Fallujah in 2004 and their charred bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates River. According to insurance claims on file at the Department of Labor, 1,001 civilian contractors have been killed in Iraq since the war began in March 2003, through June 30, 2007.

But Iraqis have long complained about high-profile, heavily armed security vehicles careering through the streets, with guards pointing weapons at civilians and sometimes firing warning shots at anyone deemed too close. And Iraqi officials were quick to condemn the foreign guards.

Al-Maliki late Sunday condemned the shooting by a "foreign security company" and called it a "crime."

Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani described the shooting as "a crime about which we cannot be silent."

"Everyone should understand that whoever wants good relations with Iraq should respect Iraqis," al-Bolani told Al-Arabiya television. "We are implementing the law and abide by laws, and others should respect these laws and respect the sovereignty and independence of Iraqis in their country."

Defense Minister Abdul-Qadir al-Obaidi told Iraqi television that "those criminals" responsible for deaths "should be punished" and that the government would demand compensation for the victims' families.

Despite threats of prosecution, government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told Alhurra television that contractors cannot be prosecuted by Iraqi courts because "some of them have immunity."

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the United States had not been notified of any Iraqi government decision to revoke Blackwater's license and declined to speculate as to how that might affect State Department activities if it happened.

"The bottom line is that the secretary wants to make sure that we do everything we possibly can to avoid the loss of innocent life," McCormack told reporters in Washington.

In April, the Defense Department said about 129,000 contractors of many nationalities were operating in Iraq — nearly as many as the entire U.S. military force before this year's troop buildup.

About 4,600 contractors are in combat roles, such as protecting supply convoys along Iraq's dangerous, bomb-laden highways.

Blackwater, a secretive North Carolina-based company run by a former Navy SEAL, is among the biggest and best known security firms, with an estimated 1,000 employees in Iraq and at least $800 million in government contracts.

In May 2007, a Blackwater employee shot and killed a civilian who was thought to be driving too close to a company security detail.

Last Christmas Eve, an inebriated Blackwater employee shot and killed a security guard for an Iraqi vice president, according to Iraqi and U.S. officials. The contractor made his way to the U.S. Embassy where Blackwater officials arranged to have him flown home to the United States, according U.S. officials who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

The contractor has been fired and Blackwater is cooperating with federal investigators, company spokeswoman Anne Tyrrell has said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: blackwater; civiliancontractors; iraqigovernment
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1 posted on 09/17/2007 2:14:40 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Another setup carried out by the same people “Terrorists hiding behind or dressed as civilians”.


2 posted on 09/17/2007 2:24:59 PM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

with Blackwater expelled, the situation could turn ugly regarding lack security services in the immediate aftermath.


3 posted on 09/17/2007 2:31:07 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: FreedomPoster; Squantos; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; Lion Den Dan; Fred Mertz; Wally Cleaver

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4 posted on 09/17/2007 2:31:25 PM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: SLB

Petraeus ought to read them the riot act.

Germany and Japan didn’t get to eject anyone American in the immediate aftermath of WWII, I can guarantee that.


5 posted on 09/17/2007 2:33:20 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster
This is not a good development, and the left will play it to the hilt. Look for Abu Graib type coverage. Damn!
6 posted on 09/17/2007 2:43:06 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; LadyNavyVet

Baksheesh.


7 posted on 09/17/2007 2:46:05 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: FreedomPoster
Neither Germany nor Japan had the power to make any decisions concerning security within four years of the surrender of each. We cut Iraq loose for "self-government" earlier than we should have, for US domestic political reasons. However, the current Iraq government will disappear like a pail of water poured into the desert sand, if the US pulls the plug.

What the Iraq government says in public for public consumption, and what it does in private to protect its own interests, may be diametrically opposite. Ain't politics grand?

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Lend Me Your Ears, I'll Bore You to Tears"

8 posted on 09/17/2007 2:48:27 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (2008 IS HERE, NOW. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: SLB
From the article itself:
He said witness reports pointed to Blackwater involvement but added that the shooting was still under investigation. One witness, Hussein Abdul-Abbas, said the explosion was followed by about 20 minutes of heavy gunfire and "everybody in the street started to flee immediately."

U.S. officials said the motorcade was traveling through Nisoor Square on the way back to the Green Zone when the car bomb exploded, followed by volleys of small-arms fire that disabled one of the vehicles but caused no American casualties.
If this is true, then the Americans were attacked by a car bomb followed by small arms fire. They were ambushed by insurgent/terrorists who wanted to kill them all.

I would expect that, according to this account, a fire fight ensued, inside what appears to be a fairly heavily populated area and I expect there were deaths. My guess is the Blackwater people used extreme prejudice in defending themselves in that situation, and I cannot blaim them. If they had not, it is likely that they would be the ones dead.

But, that's just my opinion based on what is writtne in this story...which is probably about as negative on these folks as the press could afford to be.

9 posted on 09/17/2007 2:56:25 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head; FreedomPoster

IMHO the press has been given too much credit in Iraq, they spin each and every event into what “they” want the sheeple to hear.

I don’t know if there is a cure for the problem. Americans pride themselves on a free and open press, but there is no method of policing them to assure they are also honest.


10 posted on 09/17/2007 3:17:54 PM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: SLB

Writing was on the wall months ago...........The cores of those teams have been electing to not return since mid July or so per my family and friends in that arena.


11 posted on 09/17/2007 3:19:37 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: SLB

We prided ourselves in those same principles in World War II, and yet we were able to effectively manage it for OPSEC throughout that war.


12 posted on 09/17/2007 3:24:52 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Baksheesh. CORRECTO!

Betya that raghead got a big “Blackwater” finger.

As important a resource as BW is, don’t think we or BW is going to listen to some jerk that needs a good BW butt kicking.


13 posted on 09/17/2007 3:26:07 PM PDT by dusttoyou (FredHead from the git go)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Belive it or not this is a major test for this Admninstration.

These contractors fight like the US military should be fighting, any funny business and any raghead in the general vicinity is going down.

That policy tends to keep civilians well away from any bad guys, they run away from the bad guys in a hurry before the shooting starts.

Th US sends these guys home they should send all the troops home.

The Iraqi "Government" had better check with its handlers before popping off about taking away anybodys license.

14 posted on 09/17/2007 3:31:20 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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We prided ourselves in those same principles in World War II, and yet we were able to effectively manage it for OPSEC throughout that war.

Now the country does consider itself to be at war. There are no war bonds, victory gardens, rationing or paper drives. The military production lines take second place to consumer products. I fear this will be the norm until we have another wake up call, which will make 9-11 seem like a stroll in the park. Picture a nuke in LA or NYC or maybe Washington, D.C. The muslims have shown they have much more patience than the average US citizen has.

15 posted on 09/17/2007 4:12:17 PM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: SLB
Picture a nuke in LA

Urban Renewal

16 posted on 09/17/2007 4:15:30 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Squantos

Could you expand on that, perhaps with some “whys” and “whatfers”? Very curious on the reasoning.


17 posted on 09/17/2007 4:18:09 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: SLB
I agree, we are not on a war footing and we should be.

This is a generational confrontation...we must treat it as such. We cannot fight such a war, against abject fanatical enemies (every bit as much so at the Nazis or Imperialist Japanese) in some kind of "more compassionate", "politically correct", or fairy-tale, la-la land fashion.

It only invites the next attack, which, as you say, will only be worse than the last...and continue so...until we wake up as a people and demand leaders who get the lead out and stop politic'ing and start fighting as if though we meant to win, and win unconditionally.

18 posted on 09/17/2007 4:20:26 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Regulator

Maybe a nuke in Washington would be “term limits?”


19 posted on 09/17/2007 4:22:38 PM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: Jeff Head
This is a generational confrontation

Well said.

The political correctness of the press and the influence on John Q. Public makes me sick.

20 posted on 09/17/2007 4:24:56 PM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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