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OU-UT rivalry at center of bloody bar fight
Houston Chronicle ^ | 9/11/2007 | associated press

Posted on 09/11/2007 1:21:14 PM PDT by 1riot1ranger

OU-UT rivalry at center of bloody bar fight Associated Press

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — To hear Oklahoma football fans tell it, some things just aren't done in the heart of Sooner Nation, and one of them is to walk into a bar wearing a Texas Longhorns T-shirt.

That's exactly what touched off a bloody skirmish that left a Texas-shirt-wearing fan nearly castrated and an Oklahoma fan facing aggravated assault charges that could put him in prison for up to five years.

The shocking case has set off a raging debate in this football-crazed region about the extreme passions behind a bitter rivalry. Some legal observers have even questioned whether this case could ever truly have an impartial jury.

"I've actually heard callers on talk radio say that this guy deserved what he got for wearing a Texas T-shirt into a bar in the middle of Sooner country," said Irven Box, an attorney in this city 20 miles from Oklahoma's campus in Norman.

According to police, 32-year-old Texas fan Brian Christopher Thomas walked into Henry Hudson's Pub on June 17 wearing a Longhorns T-shirt and quickly became the focus of football "trash talk" from another regular, 53-year-old Oklahoma fan Allen Michael Beckett.

Thomas told police that when he decided to leave and went to the bar to pay his tab, Beckett grabbed him in the crotch, pulled him to the ground and wouldn't let go, even as bar patrons tried to break it up. When the two men were separated, Thomas looked down and realized the extent of his injuries.

"He could see both of his testicles hanging on the outside of his body," said Thomas' attorney, Carl Hughes. "He was wearing a pair of white shorts, which made it that much worse."

It took more than 60 stitches to close the wound, and police interviewed Thomas at a nearby hospital emergency room.

Beckett's attorney, Billy Bock, concedes that his client commented about Thomas' shirt, but said it was just good-natured ribbing and that he apologized to Thomas when it appeared to upset the Texas fan. Later, Bock said Thomas approached his client at the bar and threatened him.

"My client is a little man, and this guy (Thomas) is 30 to 40 pounds bigger than him," Bock said. "He's bigger, stronger, younger and probably faster, and he aggressively leaned in and touched my client and threatened to beat him up. ... My guy was defending himself and just took control of the situation."

Thomas' attorney disputes Beckett's version.

"That's total malarkey," Hughes said. "My client never said a word to him. He got up to pay and when he paid and left a tip, the guy grabbed him."

Beckett, a 53-year-old church deacon, federal auditor and former Army combat veteran, has pleaded not guilty. His next court appearance comes Oct. 4, two days before the Sooners and Horns tangle in their annual football game at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.

Thomas, who once lived in Houston and became a Texas fan during the heyday of star running back Earl Campbell, is still recovering from his injuries but has returned to work as a meat cutter at a Sam's Club warehouse store.

Like Beckett and Thomas, many fans of the two college squads never attended either university, but have come to identify so closely with these teams that they attach banners to their cars, wear team colors on game day and even have programmed their car horns to play school fight songs.

Dallas police Sgt. Andy Harvey, a 12-year veteran of the force, said it's not uncommon for fights to break out between fans of the two schools.

"People are passionate about their teams and their universities, and that's a good thing," he said, "but when you mix a real passionate sports fan and then get a little alcohol in there, sometimes it's not a good mix."

On both Texas and Oklahoma fan Web sites, boosters trade familiar tales of having their car tires slashed or windshields smashed for sporting the opposing team's sticker in enemy territory.

Assistant District Attorney Scott Rowland said the rivalry will have no bearing on the way the case is prosecuted.

"It appears that it played a part in the fight," he said, "but that won't play any more of a role in our handling of the case than would a fight over a girl or a car or a song on the jukebox."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: football; ou; texas
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Best quote from a Chronicle blogger: Bgirl wrote: "What a couple of idiots! I'm surprised the Texas fan had any testicles and even more surprised an OU fan could find them."
1 posted on 09/11/2007 1:21:19 PM PDT by 1riot1ranger
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To: r-q-tek86
um....PING...
2 posted on 09/11/2007 1:24:57 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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I'm an OU fan, and what this guy did is unconscionable, just plain stupid
3 posted on 09/11/2007 1:27:27 PM PDT by Greystoke
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I'm surprised the Texas fan had any testicles and even more surprised an OU fan could find them."

I'm not suprised that these 'fans' are intimately familiar with the location of male testicles at all. I'll just bet that these college football frat boys spend long hours late at night together doing just that.

College football fans are just plain weird....

L

4 posted on 09/11/2007 1:27:56 PM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: 1riot1ranger
Thomas, who once lived in Houston and became a Texas fan during the heyday of star running back Earl Campbell, is still recovering from his injuries but has returned to work as a meat cutter at a Sam's Club warehouse store.

You can't make this stuff up....
5 posted on 09/11/2007 1:28:35 PM PDT by rottndog (Government is a necessary evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
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To: Greystoke
Yeah...it was unconscionable for a UTerus fan to get so pissed about bar insults that he had to go over and attack an old man. Please note that the Texas drunk guy was in his 20’s and the OU drunk guy was in his 50’s. Young guy thought he could whip the old man’s ass...Young guy gets old man in a headlock. Old man grabs agroboy’s sack and squeezes.

Self defense in my book. If a guy can’t take ribbing while wearing Texas garb in the middle of Oklahoma, he shouldn’t be out in public.

6 posted on 09/11/2007 1:30:35 PM PDT by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: 1riot1ranger

Street shootings and riots in downtown Dallas on the Friday night before the game did not used to be uncommon. The city has had things under a little better control the last 10 years or so, but you’d still have to give me premium pay to get me to go to the West End that night.


7 posted on 09/11/2007 1:31:01 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: 1riot1ranger
Beckett, a 53-year-old church deacon, federal auditor and former Army combat veteran, has pleaded not guilty.

Investigators believe that being a federal auditor is what made him instinctively go for the balls.

8 posted on 09/11/2007 1:31:06 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: 1riot1ranger

Church deacon - great example.


9 posted on 09/11/2007 1:34:18 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Explodo

What is he? half nuts?


10 posted on 09/11/2007 1:34:28 PM PDT by evets
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To: evets

Sounds like the OU fan got the first sack of the college football season.


11 posted on 09/11/2007 1:36:59 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: 1riot1ranger

I remember a couple of years ago a Green Bay Packer fan, dressed accordingly, walked into a bar on the Illinois side of the border. Police found him naked, duct taped to a stop sign, in sub-zero weather.


12 posted on 09/11/2007 1:37:06 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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If he is 34 years old, he was born the same year that Campbell started at UT. Kinda early to establish football loyalty?

Gig'em

13 posted on 09/11/2007 1:38:14 PM PDT by jdub
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That's exactly what touched off a bloody skirmish that left a Texas-shirt-wearing fan nearly castrated and an Oklahoma fan facing aggravated assault charges that could put him in prison for up to five years.

What do you want to bet that neither participant ever attended UT or OU?

14 posted on 09/11/2007 1:39:20 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (I made a prank call...pretended I was a mime.)
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I'll take that bet
Like Beckett and Thomas, many fans of the two college squads never attended either university

15 posted on 09/11/2007 1:40:25 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Explodo

“Yeah...it was unconscionable for a UTerus fan to get so pissed about bar insults that he had to go over and attack an old man. Please note that the Texas drunk guy was in his 20’s and the OU drunk guy was in his 50’s. Young guy thought he could whip the old man’s ass...Young guy gets old man in a headlock. Old man grabs agroboy’s sack and squeezes.
Self defense in my book. If a guy can’t take ribbing while wearing Texas garb in the middle of Oklahoma, he shouldn’t be out in public.”

Your post oozes with insanity and hatred. Pretty typical of a lot of Sooner fans. I’m not the least bit surprised that a Sooner did this. After all, their “official handsign” is ours inverted. Pure class.


16 posted on 09/11/2007 1:42:00 PM PDT by Tex Pete
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"I'm an OU fan, and what this guy did is unconscionable, just plain stupid"

You are talking about the Teasip, right?

17 posted on 09/11/2007 1:43:19 PM PDT by 1riot1ranger ("There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. ..." President T. Roosevelt)
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To: 1riot1ranger

Tee Hee. Teasip.


18 posted on 09/11/2007 1:44:08 PM PDT by Tex Pete
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To: stainlessbanner
Former Army Combat Veteran.
Better example
19 posted on 09/11/2007 1:46:27 PM PDT by 1riot1ranger ("There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. ..." President T. Roosevelt)
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To: jdub

Yeah, but “the Earl of Texas” is an immortal. When I was a kid I was exclusively a baseball fan . . . but that all changed when I saw a highlight clip of Campbell’s 1977 Heisman Trophy season.


20 posted on 09/11/2007 1:50:57 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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