Posted on 09/07/2007 12:37:42 PM PDT by Jay777
ABC claims to have the transcript, and he criticizes the Democrats for not stopping the war in Iraq. I thought they said that he wanted us there.
He says to the American people, "you made one of your greatest mistakes, in that you neither brought to account nor punished those who waged this war, not even the most violent of its murderers, [former Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld…""You permitted Bush to complete his first term, and stranger still, chose him for a second term, which gave him a clear mandate from you -- with your full knowledge and consent -- to continue to murder our people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you claim to be innocent! The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th -- were I to claim such a thing."
Bin Laden says President Bush's words echo "neoconservatives like Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Richard Perle."
"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there."
(Excerpt) Read more at stoptheaclu.com ...
I wonder how Her Heinous, John Effin Kerry, Teddy the Swimmer and Bela Pelosi like being castigated by Osama for not doing what they were elected to do?
Just thought y’all would get a kick out of this INSANE response to OBL’s Video on DailyKos!
“Still, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage (Weiner), and all the rest of the propaganda brigade used the video as a cudgel, all day.
Hannity compared bin Laden and his gang to the Democrats, and actually did a point by point comparison (against unbridled capitalism, check; wants the war to end, check).
Limbaugh did much the same, and allowed several callers to call the Dems “traitors who should be hung”. And Weiner, ... well, I don’t even want to go there.
And interestingly, both Hannity and Limbaugh played that stupid song “Glad to be an American” or whatever in the hell it’s called, over, and over, trying to stoke patriotic fervor in their idiot audiences.
Really, it was most fascist day of propaganda I’ve heard in my almost 60 years. Then, add in the rest of the MSM, stoking war with Iran, and pushing the Iraq war.....
These people are dangerous (understatement), and if they’re not careful, they are going to cause violent confrontations, as their wingnutters grab their rifles to get them some “liberuls”.
If anyone is betraying the country, it is these propagandists, and their patrons in the Bush/Cheney regime. We MUST re-institute the Fairness Doctrine, and IMPEACH THE BASTARDS!! NOW!! Harry, Nancy, I’m talking to you!”
OHhhh Kaaaaay....
Can’t you just FEEL the hatred oozing from every pore of this libs body and soul?
OBL has put them on the spot, and they KNOW IT!
You were thinking the same thing I was. This speach could have easily been written by Ron Paul, Hitlery, or one of the other Rats running for President. I only hope and pray we get a leader strong on the WOT like Bush in the next election. We can’t bend down to these cowards!
Sadly, I was thinking liberals I know would agree with his speech. I would like to think it would be a wake up call to the Rats that they sound like Osama, but sadly I think they’ll just agree.
I suppose evil ones think that their opposition could only be as evil as they are. They figure they would stoop low, so why wouldn’t we?
Hmmm. Maybe that’s Osama posting under an anonymous screen name.
Look at the nose-width difference.
“Regarding the black beard, rather than the former gray one. I doubt he is becoming younger and healthier. I suspect he dyed it so he would not look like himself when trying to travel around Pakistan from one hiding place to another.”
You should follow the link and read the article which gives a more complete explanation of the dye job. Essentially, dye is forbidden to Muslims unless they are on ‘Jihad’. Then they can dye their beards to impress their enemies with their youth and vigor.
The following three images are all from the same 2004 video...he looks different in each one. Short/Med/Tall...and as he gets 'taller' the nose becomes thinner, LOL!
What fascinates me is that who-ever it is, he's wearing the same clothes...the background appears to be the same as is the desk. But try as I might, I cannot find a live video of the 2004 tape.
In my view, what the message doesn't contain is as significant as what it does. This is the first message from Osama to fail to contain a threat of belligerence, to fail to contain a call to jihad, and to fail to ask for more willing martyrs to join the fight. What it does contain is a thorough scolding of the American fifth column within. It's as if Osama sees the war in Iraq as a failure, and not only that, a failure in need of a scapegoat.
From the beginning we have ascribed more power to these people than they possess, is it possible we are mis-reading a fairly formal surrender here? I have said before there would be no formal surrender in this war, perhaps I was wrong.
IMO the 'bin laden' of the 2004 video was a FAKE. (How many body-doubles did Sadam Hussein have?)
There is definitely defeatism throughout the diatribe. It reminded me of the Una-bombers essay that was printed in the paper many years ago. Terrorists apparently thrive on defeatism. Do not believe there was an actual surrender there though. He is mostly claiming that the peaceniks within the west failed to stop the war in Iraq. Obviously he wants it stopped. The mujahadeen were successful eventually within Afghanistan against the Soviets. Bin Laden probably thinks that by fighting he will also eventually be successful against the US there again. Iraq however is a different story. The US presence is massive now and Osama simply does not have the assets to kick the US military out. The only way he could win in Iraq was if the US peaceniks forced a troop withdrawal. He is now acknowledging their failure. Apparently the fall back position is to try to convert as many moonbats as possible to Islam and hope that some of these will become mujahadeen (similar to the homegrowns recently arrested in Germany). The problem Osama has now is that he is trying to convert a bunch of illiterate sexual deviants to a religion that is 1,300 years old. Not gonna happen. We will however probably see quite a few Unabomber and McViegh clones pop up every now and then.
That's right. When you can't win the argument, silence and exile the opposition.
Stalin and Mao continue to smile at the useful idiots.
Thanks SC.
Global warming from Osama. What a blatant pander.
If the left and Ron Paul don’t realize from this speech how Osama is using them then they are truly brain dead.
Not only that, he has trimmed the beard, maybe he has not been assured by this Fatwa # 14829 from Pakistan :
Question
I have this really bad habit of putting my beard hair in my mouth. And sometimes small pieces of hair come off. I want to know what is the Shar’ee ruling if I do this during an obligatory fast in the following two conditions (A) I am sure I have swallowed a small piece of hair (B) I may (i.e., not completely sure) have swallowed a piece of hair.
Answer
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Swallowing of hair will not nullify the fast as human hair is not normally eaten nor considered as a form of nourishment.
In principle, something that is established will not be rendered invalid by doubt. Therefore, if you are doubtful regarding the hair going down your throat, you should ignore the doubt and consider the fast as valid. In this instance, even if you are confident that the hair went down, the fast will still be valid.
http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=1c9f5f6e2d56d442a6edc53173b017d0
Question
1. I would like to inquire whether Glory Brown Hennah and Glory Black hennah is permissible for men to use on their hair (beard, head)
2. Nowadays people are making hennah type mixture. They make it out of sugar and flour. They burn this two ingredients and make something like hennah. This is used by ladies on their nails. The colour is similar to hennah. It does not form layers on the nails. It is just like using hennah. Is it permissible to use this mixture? I will be very grateful for your assistance.
Answer
1. We do not have any info on the ingredients of the two products mentioned, thus, we cannot comment.
2. Pure black dye is not permissible. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Ã�layhi Wasallam) said, “There will be people who will come later (in my Ummah) and apply black dye. They will not even smell the fragrance of paradise.” (Abu Daawood). However, it is permissible for a Mujaahid (warrior) to apply black dye in order to give the impression of being young. (Jawahirul Fiqh vol2 pg421)
To dye the hair any other colour besides black e.g. Mehndi or Katm (type of grass) is permissible. This was the practice of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) and the Sahaaba (Radhiyallaahu Ánhum). (Jawahirul Fiqh vol2 pg421)
http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=dd09db8232673668f462c21352e81462
lol
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