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Hardline takeover of British mosques
The Times (U.K.) ^ | September 7, 2007 | Andrew Norfolk

Posted on 09/06/2007 6:42:31 PM PDT by Stoat

Hardline takeover of British mosques

 

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Almost half of Britain’s mosques are under the control of a hardline Islamic sect whose leading preacher loathes Western values and has called on Muslims to “shed blood” for Allah, an investigation by The Times has found.

Riyadh ul Haq, who supports armed jihad and preaches contempt for Jews, Christians and Hindus, is in line to become the spiritual leader of the Deobandi sect in Britain. The ultra-conservative movement, which gave birth to the Taleban in Afghanistan, now runs more than 600 of Britain’s 1,350 mosques, according to a police report seen by The Times.

The Times investigation casts serious doubts on government statements that foreign preachers are to blame for spreading the creed of radical Islam in Britain’s mosques and its policy of enouraging the recruitment of more “home-grown” preachers.

Mr ul Haq, 36, was educated and trained at an Islamic seminary in Britain and is part of a new generation of British imams who share a similar radical agenda. He heaps scorn on any Muslims who say they are “proud to be British” and argues that friendship with a Jew or a Christian makes “a mockery of Allah’s religion”.

Seventeen of Britain’s 26 Islamic seminaries are run by Deobandis and they produce 80 per cent of home-trained Muslim clerics. Many had their studies funded by local education authority grants. The sect, which has significant representation on the Muslim Council of Britain, is at its strongest in the towns and cities of the Midlands and northern England.

Figures supplied to The Times by the Lancashire Council of Mosques reveal that 59 of the 75 mosques in five towns – Blackburn, Bolton, Preston, Oldham and Burnley – are Deobandi-run.

It is not suggested that all British Muslims who worship at Deobandi mosques subscribe to the isolationist message preached by Mr ul Haq, and he himself suggests Muslims should only “shed blood” overseas.

But while some Deobandi preachers have a more cohesive approach to interfaith relations, Islamic theologians say that such bridge-building efforts do not represent mainstream Deobandi thinking in Britain.

The Times has gained access to numerous talks and sermons delivered in recent years by Mr ul Haq and other graduates of Britain’s most influential Deobandi seminary near Bury, Greater Manchester.

Intended for a Muslim-only audience, they reveal a deep-rooted hatred of Western society, admiration for the Taleban and a passionate zeal for martyrdom “in the way of Allah”.

The seminary outlaws art, television, music and chess, demands “entire concealment” for women and views football as “a cancer that has infected our youth”.

Mahmood Chandia, a Bury graduate who is now a university lecturer, claims in one sermon that music is a way in which Jews spread “the Satanic web” to corrupt young Muslims.

“Nearly every university in England has a department which is called the music department, and in others, where the Satanic influence is more, they call it the Royal College of Music,” he says.

Another former Bury student, Bradford-based Sheikh Ahmed Ali, hails the 9/11 attacks on America because they acted as a wake-up call to young Muslims. This, he says, taught them that they will “never be accepted” in Britain and has led them to “return to Islam: sisters are wearing hijab . . . the lion is waking up”.

Mr ul Haq, the most high-profile of the new generation of Deobandis, runs an Islamic academy in Leicester and is the former imam at the Birmingham Central Mosque. Revered by many young Muslims, he draws on his extensive knowledge of the Koran and the life and sayings of the prophet Muhammed to justify his hostility to the kuffar, or non-Muslims.

One sermon warns believers to protect their faith by distancing themselves from the “evil influence” of their non-Muslim British neighbours.

“We are in a very dangerous position here. We live amongst the kuffar, we work with them, we associate with them, we mix with them and we begin to pick up their habits.”

In another talk, delivered a few weeks before 9/11, he praises Muslims who have gained martyrdom in battle and laments that today “no one dare utter the J word”. “The J word has become taboo . .. The J word is jihad in the way of Allah.”

The Times has made repeated attempts to get Mr ul Haq to comment on the content of his sermons. However, he declined to respond.

A commentator on religious radicalism in Pakistan, where Deobandis wield significant political influence, told The Times that “blind ignorance” on the part of the Government in Britain had allowed the Deobandis to become the dominant voice of Islam in Britain’s mosques.

Khaled Ahmed said: “The UK has been ruined by the puritanism of the Deobandis. You’ve allowed the takeover of the mosques. You can’t run multiculturalism like that, because that’s a way of destroying yourself. In Britain, the Deobandi message has become even more extreme than it is in Pakistan. It’s mind-boggling.”

In some mosques the sect has wrested control from followers of the more moderate majority, the Barelwi movement.

A spokesman for the Department for Communities said: “We have a detailed strategy to ensure imams properly represent and connect with mainstream moderate opinion and promote shared values like tolerance and respect for the rule of law. We have never said the challenge from extremism is simply restricted to those coming from overseas.”



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May God Bless and Protect our British Friends.....they are under attack on many fronts and their Government fails to act decisively

 

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1 posted on 09/06/2007 6:42:37 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Amen....


2 posted on 09/06/2007 6:54:14 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance......)
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To: UKrepublican

Ping


3 posted on 09/06/2007 7:04:13 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

And we in America are next! Our government at all levels is not acting any better. A prime example is the Islamic public school in New York.


4 posted on 09/06/2007 7:04:20 PM PDT by fourmation599 (Infidel is in the eye of the beholder)
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To: Stoat

Let me guess, these rat b****rds live in the mosque. Someone with some knowledge explain their habits. I bet you anything they can live at the mosque. That should be absolutely AGAINST THE LAW. Why? Because it makes them protected in an outpost type situation. Not acceptable.


5 posted on 09/06/2007 7:07:36 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Stoat

the people of britian voted these appeasers into their government - may they dig their own way out of the mess THEY made - without our help.


6 posted on 09/06/2007 7:20:54 PM PDT by steel_resolve (Club the wicked.)
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To: Stoat

I’m sure Gordon Brown is on top of this. /sarc


7 posted on 09/06/2007 7:21:16 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Stoat
Straight from satansallahs anus through muuuhHamheads (Pigs be inseminating hims) mouth!

Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not. -Surah 2:216

Bukhari:V1B2N25 "Allah's Apostle was asked, ‘What is the best deed?' He replied, ‘To believe in Allah and His Apostle Muhammad.' The questioner then asked, ‘What is the next best in goodness?' He replied, ‘To participate in Jihad, religious fighting in Allah's Cause.'"

Make war on them [infidels] until idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme.” (Sura 2:193)

“Seize them and put them to death wherever you find them.” (Sura 4:89)

Sura 9:5 of the “Koran,” “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”


What do the moderates teach?????? Sparkle glitter and smiley stickers????

Their whole "religion"/death cult needs to be banned!!!! It is in as bad taste as the headhunter and cannibal cults of South America!

8 posted on 09/06/2007 7:22:07 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Did you know that everyday mexican gays sneak into this country and unplug our brain dead ladies HJS)
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To: Stoat

The British have been emasculated by 50+ years of socialism and disarmament. They have Muslims who are advocating the murder of non-Muslims in their midst and they haven’t the will to act.

Hitler came 60 years too early to defeat the British.


9 posted on 09/06/2007 7:29:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Stoat

Wow!! I’ll bet nobody saw this coming. /sarc


10 posted on 09/06/2007 7:33:14 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: Stoat
Shame on the Brits, and let their idiotic politically correctness be a lesson of total destruction of a country to us all.
11 posted on 09/06/2007 7:35:30 PM PDT by right wing (The Drive-By Media Are Terrorists Too)
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Wow!! I’ll bet nobody saw this coming. /sarc

Sort of like the balloons in the Macy's parade....


12 posted on 09/06/2007 7:40:02 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
Now there's a shocker.

Enemy within.

13 posted on 09/06/2007 8:13:19 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: fourmation599

We will end up killing millions of these evil spawn before it’s over.


14 posted on 09/06/2007 8:15:41 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The British have been emasculated by 50+ years of socialism and disarmament. They have Muslims who are advocating the murder of non-Muslims in their midst and they haven’t the will to act.

The British-born Fabian Society started undermining Great Britain in 1883 and presided over its giveaway of its empire and conversion to socialism. Its leading voices also infiltrated the United States, most notably in the FDR and Kennedy/Johnson/Clinton administrations; in fact, there are many citations in the book The Fabian Freeway by Rose L. Martin showing that the gradual takeover of the U.S. by socialist internationalists was to be accomplished through the Democrat party.

15 posted on 09/06/2007 9:10:34 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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Interesting reading, thank you for posting.

They even publish a magazine   LOL

fabians.org.uk

16 posted on 09/06/2007 9:30:10 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Six video’s of UNDERCOVER mosques in UK.

http://rollyo.com/exsearch.html?sid=183749&q=hatred%20preached%20in%20UK%20mosque&to=youtube


17 posted on 09/06/2007 9:33:05 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Stoat
Shed blood?

It can be arranged, but not so easily in a nation where gun ownership is minuscule.

18 posted on 09/06/2007 10:03:33 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you very much for posting....I’m part way through the second one now, and it’s obvious that this is an excellent program and essential viewing.....I hope that everyone will click on your link and go to the “Dispatches” series.

Looking at this vile stuff, I have to commend the producers of this program, as I can’t envision a major American network producing such a thing, much less actually broadcasting it.

It naturally raises questions such as how close to these British examples are mosques here in the USA?
With an utterly spineless, PC-obsessed US media who would never consider doing a similar undercover program, we won’t have similar evidence. It’ll have to be an independent effort.


19 posted on 09/06/2007 10:04:24 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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In a sane world, these radical Mosques where calls for blood shed and violent overthrow of the host country are the focus - would be declared criminal enterprises and the “congregation” arrested as any thug should be treated....

Radical Islam is not a religion — it is a murderous cult.

I’ve come to believe, that most Moderate Muslims are those who haven’t yet gained the strength to be a Radical Muslim.....


20 posted on 09/06/2007 10:14:14 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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