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Fox: Larry Craig "reconsidering" his resignation...
Fox News | 09/04/2007

Posted on 09/04/2007 5:35:49 PM PDT by tsmith130

Just reported on a news break.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: 110th; doovers; larrycraig; resignalready; resignation
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To: Eric Blair 2084

At first glance Craig’s situation may seem exit only but once you get close to the man you’ll see he can give as good as he gets. He often tells the story of how he played catcher and pitcher as a young man on the field.


321 posted on 09/05/2007 12:05:17 PM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I am not defending this guy, never even heard of him until this incident. But really, what a way to set someone up

He never denied putting his feet and hands in the other stall.

Nor was he shocked when confronted by the police officer.

A normal man, would be both shocked and outraged that he was being charged with such a deviant act.

Craig only wanted the thing to be brushed under the rug.

322 posted on 09/05/2007 12:05:43 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: shield
You’ve got NO proof whatsoever. After listening to the tape and reading the transcript...I can’t believe people have been so easily sucked in.

Sucked into what-the truth!

No normal man ever puts his hands or feet into another man's stall when it is occupied.

This is the homosexual myth that is now being projected by the media in movies and TV, that restrooms are were men 'hangout'.

Normal men go into a public restroom and do their 'business'.

They do not talk to one another at the urinals and in the stalls.

Men public restrooms are the extremely quiet and the men move quickly to get out not hang around and chat.

323 posted on 09/05/2007 12:15:19 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: ErieGeno
Let me understand this? Bill Clinton receives oral sex in the Oval Office and stays in office? His jilted wife is successful in becoming the carpetbag Senator from New York? Barney Frank, an open homosexual, has a friend who he lives with who runs a prostitution ring in the basement of his home and he still reigns as a ranking Senator? Uncle Ted is involved in the death of a young lady who he was partying with and he still remains as a Senator? But Craig taps the foot of the dude in the next stall and MUST RESIGN? Talk about your double standards?

The Democratic Party is the Party of deviants, the GOP isn't suppose to be.

That is why Guianni will never get the normination, no one wants a guy who wore drag to be President.

324 posted on 09/05/2007 12:18:07 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: TheKidster

That’s what I have heard about him from those who know him. They say he is the type of Senator who can bring men together. He’s a uniter, not a divider.


325 posted on 09/05/2007 12:21:00 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Williams
Let’s face it, if most of us, even US Senators were in a bathroom and our foot hit somebody, we’re not going to plead guilty to anything. It was his embarrassment over what was really going on that caused him to plea and flee. I think his statement to the officer “You entrapped me” or “You solicited me” was devastating. You don’t get solicited or entrapped into accidentally hitting someone with your foot.

Exactly, he knew what he was accused of doing.

A normal man would have been stunned and outraged to even be accused of such deviant behaviour, no less a sitting U.S. Senator!

326 posted on 09/05/2007 12:21:45 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: TChad
"... Let's see police video."

    You're suggesting that police install concealed video cams in public bathrooms and film people at stalls and urinals?

"Craig's threat could have been motivated by fear, even if he was innocent."

    I believe it was motivated by fear.

"Let's see police video of Craig entering Karsinia's stall and closing the door, or handing Karsinia his hotel keys and saying 'meet me tonight,' or some other evidence that is much more clear cut than we have here.

    Given the two charges that were made, prosecution would not have to claim anything at all about Craig's sexual orientation. To place a hand or foot inside another person's bathroom stall and to make bodily contact with the person in that stall, constitutes disorderly conduct, with or without lewd intent. And if all you have to do to have a charge dismissed is to say, "It's the officer's word against mine," then most traffic violations (and many more serious offenses) would elude enforcement.

    Unless the court has good reason to believe the officer is not trustworthy, his word is going to be better than yours or mine.


327 posted on 09/05/2007 12:24:23 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Current Occupant
Then he said "what's wrong with being gay?". Anyway, Rush was way off his game today.

And how many times has this great spokesman for Conservative values been married?

Is it 3 or 4?

328 posted on 09/05/2007 12:28:31 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: VictoryGal

RUSH is wrong on the Craig issue and he needs to quit being so dismissive everytime a caller disagrees with him. The irritation in his voice is obvious...he can’t seem to understand that we peons are not buying it.


329 posted on 09/05/2007 12:33:56 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: COgamer
Congressfolks have done a lot worse things than this and kept their jobs...

Republicans?

What you guys don't seem to understand that the GOP is not built on the same ethical foundation as the Democrat's.

The GOP is suppose to have one and the Democrats don't, hence their unconcern about ethics.

330 posted on 09/05/2007 12:35:07 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: Cuttnhorse
RUSH is wrong on the Craig issue and he needs to quit being so dismissive everytime a caller disagrees with him. The irritation in his voice is obvious...he can’t seem to understand that we peons are not buying it.

Rush is a wall street conservative who doesn't want the GOP to be associated with 'family values'.

331 posted on 09/05/2007 12:37:47 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration
A normal man, would be both shocked and outraged that he was being charged with such a deviant act.

Exactly...if some cop ever accused me of this it would take a SWAT team, a case of mace and 5 dogs to calm me down. Except the first time the cop started with the footsie thing most people would have asked if the cop was looking for a black eye.

Craig was trolling, got caught, and is now going to try the old proven OJ defence and when its over, the cop will be the one in trouble.

Larry, from an Idahoan, JUST GO AWAY!!!

332 posted on 09/05/2007 12:41:25 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: fortheDeclaration

Let the people of Idaho make the decision whether he stays or not. They can easily vote him OUT. What you say is pure speculation...nothing more. Until there is actual evidence...this issue is moot. Wouldn’t we expect that for ourselves....evidence...not the appearance or what one thinks. C’mon...


333 posted on 09/05/2007 12:43:02 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Exactly...if some cop ever accused me of this it would take a SWAT team, a case of mace and 5 dogs to calm me down. Except the first time the cop started with the footsie thing most people would have asked if the cop was looking for a black eye.

As would I and any normal man!

When a man goes into a restroom he chooses a stall and urinal that has, if possible, some space between the occupied one.

That he didn't was the tip off to the police officer that something was amiss.

334 posted on 09/05/2007 12:45:28 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: tsmith130

Larry Craig said to the Senate: “I just can’t quit you!”


335 posted on 09/05/2007 12:47:29 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Eric Blair 2084

From what I hear he really knows how to get inside of a man and when he opens his mouth a man who is a complete stranger even is able to really get inside of him.

And understand his mind.


336 posted on 09/05/2007 12:50:54 PM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: shield
Let the people of Idaho make the decision whether he stays or not. They can easily vote him OUT. What you say is pure speculation...nothing more. Until there is actual evidence...this issue is moot. Wouldn’t we expect that for ourselves....evidence...not the appearance or what one thinks. C’mon...

Well, clearly that is what is going to ultimately to happen.

But the fact is that Craig has disgraced his office and embarrased the good conservative people of his State.

We have the evidence, he has not denied what took place and pled guilty to a lesser charge to make the entire matter go away.

What more evidence would convince you?

Do you go into a men's room and put your feet and hands into an occupied stall?

Do you choose a stall next to one that is occupied when there are empty ones further away?

Do you stand in front of an occupied stall for any amount of time?

To see if a stall is occupied you look under the door, not through the cracks, unless you want to check out what the guy inside looks like.

Now men who have used public restrooms understand there is a certain decorum that goes on and when that decorum is violated there is going to be serious trouble.

The final defense for Craig isn't that he didn't engage in this dispicable behaviour, but like those who stood by Mike Vick, it is, even if he did, what is the big deal'.

337 posted on 09/05/2007 12:54:31 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I think it’s 4. His show used to be tops but lately the sex topics never get by Rush’s radar. As far as I’m concerned the wierd sex(including animal sex)should be left to Air America. JMO.


338 posted on 09/05/2007 1:02:32 PM PDT by Current Occupant (IF YOU ABANDON CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES, ARE YOU STILL A CONSERVATIVE?!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
No proof...still speculation on your part.

He may be guilty as sin...but after listening to the interview tape and reading the transcript...you or I can't base what is alleged....it's hearsay.

OBTW, I do look through the cracks to see if a stall is occupied. I also look under, and if the stall that is cleanest is next to an occupied stall...that's the one I'll pick. And if the whole restroom is gross...I will not not use it.

339 posted on 09/05/2007 1:43:19 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: finnman69

Oh I agree with you! And since he wasn’t, your points are exactly the point I was trying to make!


340 posted on 09/05/2007 2:05:01 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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