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To: TChad
"... Let's see police video."

    You're suggesting that police install concealed video cams in public bathrooms and film people at stalls and urinals?

"Craig's threat could have been motivated by fear, even if he was innocent."

    I believe it was motivated by fear.

"Let's see police video of Craig entering Karsinia's stall and closing the door, or handing Karsinia his hotel keys and saying 'meet me tonight,' or some other evidence that is much more clear cut than we have here.

    Given the two charges that were made, prosecution would not have to claim anything at all about Craig's sexual orientation. To place a hand or foot inside another person's bathroom stall and to make bodily contact with the person in that stall, constitutes disorderly conduct, with or without lewd intent. And if all you have to do to have a charge dismissed is to say, "It's the officer's word against mine," then most traffic violations (and many more serious offenses) would elude enforcement.

    Unless the court has good reason to believe the officer is not trustworthy, his word is going to be better than yours or mine.


327 posted on 09/05/2007 12:24:23 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
You're suggesting that police install concealed video cams in public bathrooms and film people at stalls and urinals?

There are obvious problems with using such cameras, just as there are obvious problems with permitting a cop's word alone to destroy a man's life. If I have to choose between the two, I'll take the video cam. A ground level camera facing the front of the stall, that cannot record anything above the level of the partition.

To place a hand or foot inside another person's bathroom stall and to make bodily contact with the person in that stall, constitutes disorderly conduct, with or without lewd intent.

In most cases I bet it constitutes accidental conduct that should not be prosecuted.

347 posted on 09/05/2007 5:21:38 PM PDT by TChad
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