Posted on 09/04/2007 7:17:53 AM PDT by presidio9
Rudy Giuliani - the thrice-married presidential candidate who staunchly supported abortion rights, gun control and gay rights as the Big Apple's mayor - is receiving a surprising level of support from social and religious conservatives.
A recent Diageo/Hotline poll shows Giuliani leading the GOP field among Christian evangelicals and abortion opponents. He beats his nearest rival, ex-Sen. Fred Thompson,
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“Rudy Giuliani is “leading” the GOP pack with 25%-35% of the voters. Anyone who can barely muster the support of one-third of his own party’s voters is going to have his @ss handed to him in the general election.”
So that would apply to every candidate or potential candidate there is?
Yep, that’s the ticket. I tell the pollsters and the GOP contribution folks the same thing. When they realize I’m serious they pull out the old “but you wouldn’t make it possible for Hillery to win would you?” argument. My answer: I don’t care one wit about Hitlery. I want a conservative candidate who will beat her. I don’t think the RNC will move away from its “moderate” bent. A conservative would gore too many of their sacred cows.
Except that the left wing and the right wing are moving--they are not stagnant--and they are moving in the same direction: left.
You can’t be conservative and be ignorent. It’s an oxymoron. Implicit in conservatism is understanding the Constitution and educating yourself about the issues of the day. Also, it is impossible to be conservative economically, but liberal on social issues and still be conservative—or vice versa. It’s no different than the lame “I support the troops, but not war” Demrat mantra. Conservatism is not schizophrenic.
Good Grief! Who beleives anything the New York Post publishes? I would not waste my time reading it.
I'm curious, if Rooty Toot is the "only one who stands a chance" of beating Hitlery, why didn't he run against her in 2000? (And here's a hint, cancer isn't an excuse, being mayor of NYC is more stressful than running for the senate.) And why didn't he run against her last year. Could it be that deep down Rooty Toot knows he doesn't stand a chance?
Another reason is people view the WOT as the #1 concern and believe Rudy to the the leader whose experience in this trumps his negatives.
Name ONE positive thing that Rooty Toot has done in the war on terror.
Would it be NOT preparing an evacuation plan for buildings that had been shown to be vulnerable in that area?
Would it be putting a command center in the middle of a known terrorist target?
Would it be barring law enforcement officials from checking on the status of non-Americans?
Would it be suggesting a criminal as Homeland Security Secretary?
You are right in your assessment, but 99.99% of the country aren’t Freepers who can see this. You shouldn’t hope for the best simply based on what you read here.
There are problably 3-4 good conservatives on the ticket and 2 average conservatives that are running against Rudy. During the primaries, the 20% or so of us who see through Rudy will get out there and split our votes among these 6-7 candidates, and Rudy will grab the 80% of the ‘Right’s’ vote that isn’t as informed as we are...
UNLESS.. we start unifying behind a strong candidate and doing so loudly. IMHO, there is only one candidate that has the name recognition and the conservative credentials that can do this (That’s Fred)..
The point is we shouldn’t delude ourselves into thinking a majority on the Right realizes the truth about Rudy.
I am not certain that Fred will get the nomination, but I am fairly certain that Fred will take Rudy out of the race.
And one thing that is important to remember, were Rudy to win the nomination, he WOULD be forced to explain just what it was he did that made him a hero on 9/11. And that would include the fact that NOTHING was done between the 1993 WTC bombing and 9/11 to rectify the evacuation problem.
You make good points. That’s why the Dems (Lizard Queen) will probably win—their best candidate at this point is whoever can win the Republican nomination.
..the problem is then it would be to late, we would either get Hilldog or Fruity. One of those people will be commander in chief of our men in harm's way..
No he doesn't. In most recent polls reported at RealClearPolitics, Giuliani loses to Clinton, Obama and even Edwards.
I agree and that is the major reason that Rooty Toot needs to be forced to defend his real record NOW.
I wonder when Freepers will realize that our Pubs, no matter who, are better than the pacifist socialist Dem candidates? Fred is in a bit late and Rudy is doing well with many Pubs. Good. Perhaps when it all works out, we will end up with the team that will and can beat Her Highness. It will not be won with Paul, Tancredo or Hunter as good as Hunter is. That is just reality. It is now time for Pub voters in the primary states to finally, finally decide which guys really can win. I know Rudy and Fred can win. I don’t know if Mitt can but he is not a bad candidate. The others cannot. Period. If the Freepers who are ranting had actually ever worked in precinct politics as I have and many other posters here have, they would finally get off their high horse and unite to beat our real enemies, the Dems.
When it comes to liberals, it doesn't make a damn bit of difference what their party affiliation is, they are ALL dangerous (think Hitler and Stalin).
Maybe it's because there are new polls out every few weeks that are saying the exact same thing!
This just proves that scare tactics have a temporary affect.
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