Posted on 09/02/2007 1:09:49 PM PDT by kristinn
This might just be another BS moment at the Kos - theyve had so many of them Ive lost count. But if this is legit we just had a serious breach of national security.
I have a friend who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of Hormuz. (LSO: Landing Signal Officer- she directs carrier aircraft while landing) She told me we are going to attack Iran. She said that all the Air Operation Planning and Asset Tasking are finished. That means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.
I asked her why she is telling me this.Her answer was really amazing. .I know this will sound crazy coming from a Naval officer, she said. But were all just waiting for this administration to end. Things that happen at the senior officer level seem more and more to happen outside of the purview of XOs and other officers who typically have a say-so in daily combat and flight operations. Today, orders just come down from the mountaintop and theres no questioning. In fact, there is no discussing it. I have seen more than one senior commander disappear and then three weeks later we find out that he has been replaced. Thats really weird. Its also really weird because everyone who has disappeared has questioned whether or not we should be staging a massive attack on Iran."Were not stupid. Most of the members of the fleet read well enough to know what is going on world-wise. We also realize that anyone who has any doubts is in danger of having a long military career yanked out from under them. Keep in mind that most of the people I serve with are happy to be a part of the global war on terror. Its just that the touch points are what we see since we are the ones out here who are supposedly implementing this grand strategy. But when you liason with administration officials who dont know that Iranians dont speak Arabic and have no idea what Iranians live like, then you start having second thoughts about whether these Administration officials are even competent.
(So much for the apolitical moniker)
I asked her about the attack, how limited and so forth.
I dont think its limited at all. We are shipping in and assigning every damn Tomahawk we have in inventory. I think this is going to be massive and sudden, like thousands of targets. I believe that no American will know when it happens until after it happens. And whatever the consequences, whatever the consequences, they will have to be lived with. I am sure if my father knew I was telling someone in a news organization that we were about to launch a supposedly secret attack that it would be treason. But something inside me tells me to tell it anyway.
I asked her why she was suddenly so cynical.
I have become cynical only recently. I also dont believe anyone will be able to stop this. Bush has become something of an Emperor. He will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will fly and people will die, and yet few of us here are really able to cobble together a great explanation of why this is a good idea. Of course many of us can give you the 4H Club lecture on democracy in the Mid East. But if you asked any of the flight officers whether they have a clear idea of what the goal of this strike is, your answer would sound like something out of a think tank policy paper. But its not like Kosovo or when we relieved the tsunami victims. There everyone could tell you in a sentence what we were here doing.
Thats whats missing. A real sense of purpose. Whats missing is the answer to what the hell are we doing out here threatening this country with all this power? Last night in the galley, an ensign asked what right do we have to tell a sovereign nation that they cant build a nuke. I mean the table got EF Hutton quiet. Not so much because the man was asking a question that was off culture. But that he was asking a good question. In fact, the discussion actually followed afterwards topside where someone in our group had to smoke a cigarette. The discussion was intelligent but also in lowered voices. Its like we arent allowed to ask the questions that we always ask before combat. Its almost as if the average seaman or soldier is doing all the policy work.
She had to hang up. She left by telling me that she believes the attack is a done deal. Its only a matter of time before their orders come and they will be sent to station and told to go to Red Alert. She said they were already practicing traps, FARP and FAST. (Trapping is the act of catching the tension wires when landing on the carrier, FARP is Fleet Air Combat Maneuvering Readiness Program- practice dogfighting- and FAST is Fleet Air Superiority Training).
She seemed lost. The first time in my life I have ever heard her sound off rhythm, or unsure of why she is doing something. She knows that there is something rotten in the Naval Command and she, like many of her associates are just hoping that the election brings in someone new, some new situation, or something.
Yes. Were gong to hit Iran, bigtime. Whatever political discussion that are going in is window dressing and perhaps even a red herring. I see whats going on below deck here in the hangars and weapons bays. And I have a sick feeling about how its all going to turn out.
I passed this post on to the ONI AG - Office of Naval Intelligence AG to have a look-see and see if they can find this young lady - if she exists and have a chat. An active duty officer on a ship preparing for operations giving out the op plans to said operation is called - treason.
Again, considering the source (Kos), buyer beware, but if true the poster who goes by the name Maccabee - will be having some visitors.
When I saw that this morning I thought it was a mix of true stuff and B.S. Who knows which is which.
After reading her "bio" I can absolutely with unwaivering confidence and complete certitude say that this character is ficitonal.
Madsen is a treasonous, vicious, raving moonbat for sure, but he’s been around enough that he probably changed some details on the description of his anonymous “contact” (if there even is such a person). Either he just made up the contact in order to put out there his own trial balloon to try to get the moonbats riled up about protecting Iran from any impending strike.....
OR, if he really has such a contact, it’s probably not any LSO and probably not even female.
Think about it, why would he put out a description that could so easily be tracked???? How many female LSOs are currently on a carrier near the Persian Gulf? Can’t be many..... which makes me suspect Madsen put out the “female LSO” tag as disinformation or one kind or another.
I would tend to agree with you - the “screen name” struck a weird note right off, and it lines up with Imadamnutjob’s ravings that the US is controlled by a Jewish conspiracy that in turn is focusing on the self-annointed leader of Islam himself, Imadamnutjob.
It’s probably beyond disinformation, and is meant to be used as inflammatory “information” for domestic consumption within Iran. Naturally, it could only be the Kos that would provide it with a home and some appearance of legitimacy.
Thats whats missing. A real sense of purpose. Whats missing is the answer to what the hell are we doing out here threatening this country with all this power? - "LSO"
The 'LSO' was taught from day one what her purpose would be. For those of you in Rio Linda and PBC, "her" purpose is to kill people and break things.
If there are too many facts inserted into the fiction above, then what we have is aiding and abetting the enemy. That used to be called "treason."
Time to investigate if an Article 32 hearing is necessary.
5.56mm
Wow. The Marines now have carriers?
Yes, and what makes this even more unbelievable is that all personnel stationed on Marine carriers have double super top secret clearance because they know about the new cloaking device for the ships. So her friend would never share this info.
Bush has become something of an Emperor. He will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will fly and people will die...
Now that’s my kind of Emperor. Let’s roll.
But its not like Kosovo or when we relieved the tsunami victims. There everyone could tell you in a sentence what we were here doing.
Remind me again why we were in Kosovo.
“Remind me again why we were in Kosovo.”
To kill Christians and save the muslims was reason number 2 behind diverting attention from Clinton’s sexual predation of a child intern.
IIRC, it was because a bunch of bleeding heart Hollywood leftists took out a full page ad in the NYT telling Clinton to go fix the genocide there. Kinda like the “Save Darfur” nonsense going on now.
Mostly because Clinton needed a distraction while he pulled his pants back up.
She's military and secret ops suprise her?
>>> But its not like Kosovo or when we relieved the tsunami victims. There everyone could tell you in a sentence what we were here doing.<<<
Justifying the Left's favorite use of the military - for humanitarian purposes, but not to further American national interests!
>>> Last night in the galley, an ensign asked what right do we have to tell a sovereign nation that they cant build a nuke.<<<
My guess is that a comment like this, coming from a shipboard Ensign aboard a carrier, is about as likely as a B-52 on appproach with it's tailhook down. But then I've never been in the Navy. This is just something you might voice privately...but in the officers mess? Come on!
I've convienced myself....its a fraud; an attempt to get the public and Congress to tie Bush's hands in dealing with Iran!
But if it is authentic, I'd drag the little lady LSO by her ankles behind a destroyer at flank.
All wars have those who commit treason. Why would this one be different? They think they are cute and smart and know what is best. They always do think they are doing a noble thing. Today the Democratic Party at its heart is rotting. If most people(who really do not keep up with politics) knew of what they vote for they would be appauled. They have cast their pearls before swine. This is the times we live in. Enjoy!!!
The comment about kosovo really jumped out at me, although the whole thing reeks out loud. This is a kos-kids wet dream.
And Germans don't speak French ...
It’s not like we don’t have unfinished business with Iran.
Let’s Roll.
I call BS here as well. All these senior commanders being replaced...Only in a Stalinist's liberal wet dreams of the US Military would this happen. Just absolute fantasy here.
"...Were not stupid..."
Yes...you are.
"...I am sure if my father knew I was telling someone in a news organization that we were about to launch a supposedly secret attack that it would be treason..."
Hey, you liberal Einstein storyteller, whether your father knew or not it would be (and is) treason. Good thing this is a form of mental masturbation for you and all your fellow travellers, and not reality.
"... But its not like Kosovo or when we relieved the tsunami victims. There everyone could tell you in a sentence what we were here doing. ..."
"DING DING DING! What do we have for her, Johnny?" Ah, the mother lode of BS. We know all military personnel were completely on board for what was carried out in Kosovo....in a liberal's wet dream maybe.
"...Whats missing is the answer to what the hell are we doing out here threatening this country with all this power? Last night in the galley, an ensign asked what right do we have to tell a sovereign nation that they cant build a nuke...I mean the table got EF Hutton quiet...."
Good Lord. Hip waders cannot be made high enough for this. Yeah. Can you folks who have been in the Navy see THIS happening?
"...She had to hang up. She left by telling me that she believes the attack is a done deal. Its only a matter of time before their orders come and they will be sent to station and told to go to Red Alert. She said they were already practicing traps, FARP and FAST. (Trapping is the act of catching the tension wires when landing on the carrier, FARP is Fleet Air Combat Maneuvering Readiness Program- practice dogfighting- and FAST is Fleet Air Superiority Training)...."
THIS is one of the BIGGEST pieces of CRAP in this entire thing. (spoken in falsetto: ...Ooohh...we're practicing TRAPS today!!!!"
"...She knows that there is something rotten in the Naval Command and she, like many of her associates are just hoping that the election brings in someone new, some new situation, or something. ..."
Like, wow, I mean, really, things are like, just so, like, bad and rotten, OR SOMETHING...God. Just unbelievable. I call the entire thing BS. ENTIRELY. Could just be me, but I don't think so.
Oh, sure the contact is made up and bet there’s no one on any of those carrier groups he’s in contact with. But I will say this is just like him...this is his MO in putting out this type of information [true or not]...and then taking cover behind a women so he’s not suspected...I hope the feds have been keeping a close eye on this guy!!!
YES! Good one...:)
Doesn’t pass the smell test. This is most likely Beauchamp Part II.
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