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President Bush is going to make me bail out mortgage loan scammers (vanity)

Posted on 08/31/2007 12:19:22 PM PDT by Scythian

Well, not only do I have to pay for my house, now I get to bail out these scam Morgtage loans that were offered at no money down to people with no "real" money.

Moral: Do whatever you want just make sure when you fail it's big enough to hurt the economy and you're little scheme will be bailed out. I just don't understand our President at all anymore ....


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1 posted on 08/31/2007 12:19:27 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

No you don’t. Perhaps instead of being a screamingly stupid moron, you might bother to find out what is actually going on.


2 posted on 08/31/2007 12:21:02 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: Scythian

You are obviously not a victim so you must pay!


3 posted on 08/31/2007 12:21:14 PM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: Scythian

Vote Democrat then you will be forced to pay for their health care too.


4 posted on 08/31/2007 12:22:15 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Scythian
I've supported him with time and money for both elections and I don't understand him either.

We're always confronted with the 'lesser of two evils.' This will become painfully clear when we look at a ballot with Hillary on the left and Rudy (supposedly) on the right.

5 posted on 08/31/2007 12:22:33 PM PDT by fweingart
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To: Scythian

What a country! (/yakov smirnov)


6 posted on 08/31/2007 12:22:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE)
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To: MNJohnnie

Bailing out idiots is ridiculous.


7 posted on 08/31/2007 12:23:45 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: MNJohnnie
I would appreciate an explanation.

Carolyn

8 posted on 08/31/2007 12:24:56 PM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: BurbankKarl
Bailing out idiots is ridiculous.

But it's good for the economy!....................../S

9 posted on 08/31/2007 12:26:00 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Scythian

Bush and the Fed just protecting the big money interests.


10 posted on 08/31/2007 12:31:48 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67

Ya think!!!!!


11 posted on 08/31/2007 12:33:57 PM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: MNJohnnie

Maybe you can explain it to all of us screamingly stupid morons, genius. Why should we bail out people who took out risky loans and defaulted? Why is a supposedly “conservative” president opting for another big government bailout? The only thing that saves Bush in my eyes is the fact that he’s kept us from another catastrophic terror attack by fighting the war well in Iraq. But on everything else - immigration, border security, big government programs - he is a disappointment. I am starting to look forward to the end of his term, but none of the losers running on our side appeal to me. Not Rudy McRomney. Not Thompson. So Hitlery and Hussein Obama are probably inevitable.


12 posted on 08/31/2007 12:34:21 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: Scythian; All

I just realized that subprime does not refer to the prime rate. It refers to a borrower’s bad credit rating:

Definition:
Subprime refers to a borrower that is not ‘prime’. These are borrowers who might be less likely to repay a loan. Subprime borrowers may be classified as subprime because of:

Bad credit or lack of history
Low income or poor debt to income ratios
Large loans relative to the securing property (high LTV ratio)
Maxed out credit cards

Referring to somebody as subprime is similar to saying they have “less than perfect credit”.


13 posted on 08/31/2007 12:36:03 PM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Astronaut; MNJohnnie
Maybe you can explain it to all of us screamingly stupid morons, genius.

Yes please.

14 posted on 08/31/2007 12:37:06 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2; Astronaut; MNJohnnie

Yes, please tell me.


15 posted on 08/31/2007 12:42:29 PM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Scythian
Sounds vague and illusionary to me.

“It’s not the government’s job to bail out speculators or those who made the decision to buy a home they knew they could never afford,” Bush said in the Rose Garden. “Yet there are many American homeowners who could get through this difficult time with a little flexibility from their lenders or a little help from their government.”

16 posted on 08/31/2007 12:48:34 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: Astronaut; Hydroshock
No Child left Behind, Medicare part D, The borders

Johnnie represents the Big Government Republicans (the party of Rudy; etc. et al). We have to drag him/them kicking and screaming towards Conservative ideology and fiscal/personal responsibility. Sort of what we did regarding President Bush and Harriet Myers.

17 posted on 08/31/2007 12:51:17 PM PDT by Rush4U
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To: Perdogg

President Bush Discusses Homeownership Financing

Rose Garden

11:05 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Thank you for joining me. Secretary Paulson and Secretary Jackson gave me an update on the strong fundamentals of our nation's economy. Economic growth is healthy, and just yesterday we learned that our economy grew at a strong rate of 4 percent in the second quarter of this year. Wages are rising, unemployment is low, exports are up, and steady job creation continues.

We also had a good discussion about the situation in America's financial markets. The markets are in a period of transition, as participants reassess and re-price risk. This process has been unfolding for some time, and it's going to take more time to fully play out. As it does, America's overall economy will remain strong enough to weather any turbulence.

One area that has shown particular strain is the mortgage market, especially what's known as the sub-prime sector of the mortgage market. This market has seen tremendous innovation in recent years, as new lending products make credit available to more people. For the most part, this has been a positive development, and the reason why is millions of families have taken out mortgages to buy their homes, and American homeownership is at a near all-time high.

Unfortunately, there's also been some excesses in the lending industry. One of the most troubling developments has been the increase in adjustable rate mortgages that start out with a very low interest rate and then reset to a higher rate after a few years. This has led some homeowners to take out loans larger than they could afford based on overly-optimistic assumptions about the future performance of the housing market. Others may have been confused by the terms of their loan, or misled by irresponsible lenders. Whatever the reason they chose this kind of mortgage, some borrowers are now unable to make their monthly payments, or facing foreclosure.

Complicating the situation for borrowers is the nature of today's mortgage market. In many cases, the neighborhood banker who issued a family's mortgage does not own that mortgage for long. Instead, mortgages are sold as securities on the global market. And that makes it harder for the lender and borrower to renegotiate.

The recent disturbances in the sub-prime mortgage industry are modest -- they're modest in relation to the size of our economy. But if you're a family -- if your family is one of those having trouble making the monthly payments, this problem doesn't seem modest at all. I understand these concerns, and therefore, I've made this a top priority to help our homeowners navigate these financial challenges, so that many families as possible can stay in their homes. That's what we've been working on, a plan to help homeowners.

We've got a role, the government has got a role to play -- but it is limited. A federal bailout of lenders would only encourage a recurrence of the problem. It's not the government's job to bail out speculators, or those who made the decision to buy a home they knew they could never afford. Yet there are many American homeowners who could get through this difficult time with a little flexibility from their lenders, or a little help from their government. So I strongly urge lenders to work with homeowners to adjust their mortgages. I believe lenders have a responsibility to help these good people to renegotiate so they can stay in their home. And today I'm going to outline a variety of steps at the federal level to help American families keep their homes.

First, we're going to work to modernize and improve the Federal Housing Administration -- that's known as the FHA. The FHA is a government agency that provides mortgage insurance to borrowers through a network of private sector lenders. Sixteen months ago I sent Congress an FHA modernization bill that would help more homeowners qualify for this insurance by lowering down-payment requirements, by increasing loan limits and providing more flexibility in pricing. These reforms would allow the FHA to reach families that need help, those with low incomes and less-than-perfect credit records or little savings.

Last year the House passed this bill with more than 400 votes. Unfortunately, Congress hasn't acted this year. It would be a good task for Congress to come and get FHA modernization done so that we can help these people refinance their homes, so more people can stay in their homes. I look forward to signing a bill as quickly as possible.

In the coming days, the FHA will launch a new program called FHA-Secure. This program will allow American homeowners who have got good credit history but cannot afford their current payments to refinance into FHA-insured mortgages. This means that many families who are struggling now will be able to refinance their loans, meet their monthly payments and keep their homes. In other words, we're going to start reaching out and making sure people know that this option is available to them so they can stay in their homes.

Second, I'm going to work with Congress to temporarily reform a key housing provision of the federal tax code, which will make it easier for homeowners to refinance their mortgages during this time of market stress. Under current law, homeowners who are unable to meet their mortgage payments can face an unexpected tax bill. For example, let's say the value of your house declines by $20,000 and your adjustable rate mortgage payments have grown to a level you cannot afford. If the bank modifies your mortgage and forgives $20,000 of your loan, the tax code treats that $20,000 as taxable income. When your home is losing value and your family is under financial stress, the last thing you need to do is to be hit with higher taxes.

So I believe we need to change the code to make it easier for people to refinance their homes and stay in their homes. And to this end, I've called Senator Debbie Stabenow of Michigan and told her that she's on to a good idea with the bill that she and George Voinovich have submitted to the Senate. The House has got Rob Andrews of New Jersey and Ron Lewis of Kentucky introducing legislation that is a positive step toward changing the tax code so people aren't penalized when they refinance their homes. With a few changes in the Senate version and the House version, this administration can support these bills, and we look forward to working with them -- the senators and the members of the House -- to pass common-sense legislation to help us address this issue.

Third, my administration will launch a new foreclosure avoidance initiative to help struggling homeowners find a way to refinance. Secretary Jackson and Secretary Paulson are going to reach out to a wide variety of groups that offer foreclosure counseling and refinancing for American homeowners. These groups include community organizations like NeighborWorks and mortgage lenders and loan services, and the FHA, as well as government-sponsored enterprises like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. These organizations exist to help people refinance, and we expect them to do that.

See, it's easy for me to stand up here and talk about refinancing -- some people don't even know what I'm talking about. And we need to have a focused effort to help people understand the mortgage financing options available to them, or to identify homeowners before they face hardships and help them understand what's possible.

Finally, the federal government is taking a variety of actions to make the mortgage industry more transparent, more reliable and more fair, so we can reduce the likelihood that these kind of lending problems won't happen again. Federal banking regulators are improving disclosure requirements to ensure that lenders provide homeowners with complete and accurate and understandable information about their mortgages, including the possibility that their monthly payments could rise dramatically. In other words, we believe that if the consumer is better informed, these kind of problems won't arise -- are less likely to arise in the first place. Banking regulators are also strengthening lending standards to help ensure that borrowers are not approved for mortgages larger than they can handle.

This administration will soon issue regulations that require mortgage brokers to fully disclose their fees and closing costs. We're pursuing wrongdoing and fraud in the mortgage industry through the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Department of Justice, the Federal Trade Commission, and other agencies. In other words, if you've been cheating somebody we're going to find you and hold you to account. And we'll continue to do our part to help improve all aspects of the mortgage marketplace that is really important to this economy of ours.

With all the steps I've outlined today we will deliver help and hope to American families who need it. We'll help guard against future problems in the housing sector. We'll reaffirm the vital place of homeownership in our nation. When more families own their own homes, neighborhoods are more vibrant and communities are stronger, and more people have a stake in the future of this country.

Owning a home has always been at the center of the American Dream. Together with the United States Congress I will continue working to help make that dream a reality for more of our citizens. Thank you.

Q Sir, what about the hedge funds and banks that are overexposed on the sub-prime market? That's a bigger problem. Have you got a plan?

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.

END 11:16 A.M. EDT


18 posted on 08/31/2007 12:52:49 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Scythian; dragnet2; Astronaut; CDHart; BurbankKarl
So, instead we should listen to the screaming moron crowd, and DO NOTHING? Just let the Economy get thrown into recession so that after the Voters elect Hillary and a 60 seat Democrat Senate in 2008, we can all scream as we get a real illegal amnesty, a National Socialists health Care system and a 2 or 3 big time socialist Supreme Court Justices forced on us?

But of course, at least then the screaming moron crowd on the wacko fringe Right could then pat themselves on the back for how doctrinally pure they all are.

The President did the best he could with a losing PR hand. He made the minimum changes he could to shore up confidence in the markets without going for an out and out bail out. He also left the burden on the people who took the loans. They have to refinance, their houses are NOT being paid off. He is giving them a helping hand, not a handout. To Do Nothing would of been politically catastrophic for Republicans in 2008

Politics is a game of percentages. You are never going to get ONLY 100% of ONLY what YOU personally want. Learn to live with it.

19 posted on 08/31/2007 12:59:48 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: Hydroshock

Read post 19


20 posted on 08/31/2007 1:00:34 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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