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More sugar for ethanol
Farm & Ranch Guide ^ | August 30, 2007 | Alan Guebert

Posted on 08/31/2007 7:53:42 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer

In the down-is-up world of American biofuels, success carries enormous costs.

The latest evidence of these costs is an amendment tucked into the House version of the 2007 Farm Bill: As Mexican granular sugar flows into the U.S. in 2008, the U.S. Department of Agriculture will oversee a supply-balancing program where the extra sugar can be purchased, at government-subsidized prices, by American ethanol makers.

Sweet, eh?

Moreover, if you think American corn growers are angered by seeing part of their fast-growing ethanol market legislatively handed to imported sugar, think again. Ethanol, after all, is the rabbit hole that swallowed logic and economics long ago.

When passed in 1993, the North American Free Trade Agreement gave the U.S. a 15-year reprieve from unrestricted, low-cost Mexi-can sugar exports. The Mexicans hated the delay, but it was a key compromise cut by both Presidents Bush (I) and Clinton to get NAFTA through Congress.

During the resulting moratorium, however, U.S. high fructose corn syrup - made from taxpayer-subsidized, cheap American corn - poured into Mexico to replace that nation's granular sugar in much of its soft drink industry.

Now, 15 years later, the piper must be paid.

Or, as Phillip Brasher of the Des Moines Register noted in his late-July story on the Mexican sugar dance: “Yes, high fructose corn syrup will be sent to Mexico to displace the sugar that will then be shipped to the United States. Taxpayers can then pay for buying surplus sugar and converting it to ethanol.”

The U.S. sugar industry doesn't explain the swap so starkly.

To it, the House plan is an extension of current sugar import policy - a tangle of mandated, USDA-administrated quotas, tariffs and loans - that protects American producers from a tidal wave of vastly cheaper imports.

In short, the fact that we have a domestic sugar price support program (as do most nations) leads us to need another program to handle the 2008-and-thereafter unrestricted Mexican imports.

“If this provision were not in place,” explains Phillip Hayes of the American Sugar Alliance, “there could be very costly, massive domestic (USDA loan) forfeitures by U.S. sugar producers.”

But avoiding those potential forfeitures by directing subsidized sugar to ethanol makers won't be cheap either.

Although the Congressional Budget Office doesn't break out the exact cost of “Feedstock Flexibility Program” - the official name of the sugar idea - it estimates the House Ag Committee's 2007 “bioenergy program... would increase that program's direct spending by... $3.1 billion over the 2008-2017 period.”

All of this is too much for Dr. Thomas Elam of FarmEcon.com, a food industry consulting firm in Carmel, Ind. Recently, Elam wrote a commentary that called today's subsidy-dripping biofuel policies self-defeating.

“(G)rain-based U.S. fuel ethanol production,” wrote Elam, “is using an increasing amount of our global food supply, increasing the global costs of food production and contributing almost nothing to U.S. or global net energy supplies.

“In effect,” he continued, “by linking food and energy costs through grain-based ethanol, we have ransomed our food costs as well as our energy costs to the interests of global crude oil producers.”

A believer in “free trade and free markets,” Elam, in an Aug. 21 telephone interview, characterized the sugar-to-ethanol idea as “insane.”

But, he adds with a hint of sarcasm, “I've been waiting for ethanol makers to ask for more subsidies because of the high price of corn due to their ethanol making.”

Not surprisingly, Elam's commentary, a variation of which is at: http://farm

econ.com, has not been received well by the ethanol-fueled ag lobby.

“In fact, you're the first person to call me about it,” he notes.

Welcome to a really small club, Doc. H


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; cafta; ethanol; ftaa; nafta; sugar
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“by linking food and energy costs through grain-based ethanol, we have ransomed our food costs as well as our energy costs to the interests of global crude oil producers.”

And are further enslaving our economy to the corrupt countries to the South
1 posted on 08/31/2007 7:53:44 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: AuntB

PING


2 posted on 08/31/2007 7:54:06 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: JesseJane; Just A Nobody; B4Ranch; Nowhere Man; Coleus; neutrino; endthematrix; investigateworld; ..

Remember CAFTA and the sugar debate?


3 posted on 08/31/2007 7:54:58 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Ethanol bad
Butanol better
4 posted on 08/31/2007 7:58:44 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: hedgetrimmer

I can’t believe there are people here who still defend the ethanol scam. Either they are brain dead or they benefit from it.


5 posted on 08/31/2007 8:02:03 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: taxcontrol

Jeb Bush is positioning himself, with the help of his brother’s ethanol plan, to make himself a billionaire.


6 posted on 08/31/2007 8:02:15 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Remember CAFTA and the sugar debate?

Sure do.

I want someone to find that dang book where it is written that we owe our soul and wealth to 'those south of the border'.

7 posted on 08/31/2007 8:02:50 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: flashbunny
they benefit from it.

That's my bet.
8 posted on 08/31/2007 8:02:55 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: AuntB

Robert Pastor wrote for the Jimmy Carter Center, in 1989 that we owe our souls to Mexico and the South. It’s why he helped orchestrate the ‘dirty wars’ in South America, he use it as a study on how governments and societies are overthrown. He has brought his expertise to the US now, and we are seeing the fruits of his career.


9 posted on 08/31/2007 8:05:23 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Only a little bit. LOL

http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=+CAFTA+++++++++sugar++ethanol+++++site%3Awww.freerepublic.com&btnG=Search&lr=lang_en


10 posted on 08/31/2007 8:05:58 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: hedgetrimmer

could we not just eat the sugar?

dump fructose and use sugar cane.


11 posted on 08/31/2007 8:09:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: hedgetrimmer

And some people want to Feds to run healthcare, too.


12 posted on 08/31/2007 8:16:58 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Robert Pastor wrote for the Jimmy Carter Center, in 1989 that we owe our souls to Mexico and the South

And just what was his reason for that silly conclusion?

13 posted on 08/31/2007 8:17:35 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: hedgetrimmer

ARTIST: The Guess Who
TITLE: No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature
Lyrics and Chords

[ D* = xx0030 ]

Lonely feeling, deep inside
Find a corner where I can hide
Silent footsteps crowding me
Sudden darkness, but I can see

/ D* D D* D / / / /

{Refrain}
No sugar tonight in my coffee
No sugar tonight in my tea
No sugar to stand beside me
No sugar to run with me
Da do da da...

/ D C / G D / :

In the silence of her mind
Quiet movements where I can find
Grabbing for me with her eyes
Now I’m falling from her skies

{Refrain}

Jock says yes, and I believe him
When we talk about the things I say
She hasn’t got the faith or the guts to leave him
When they’re standing in each other’s way

/ D7 - / / / /

You’re driven back now to places you’ve been to
You wonder what you’re gonna find
You know you’ve been wrong but it won’t be long
Before you leave ‘em all far behind

{Second Refrain}
‘Cause it’s the new mother nature taking over
It’s the new splendid lady come to call
It’s the new mother nature taking over
She’s getting us all, she’s getting us all

/ G7 D7 / / / CD CD /

Jock said no when I came back last time
It’s looking like I lost a friend
No use calling ‘cause the sky is falling
And I’m getting pretty near the end

A smoke filled room in a corner basement
The situation must be right
A bag of goodies and a bottle of wine
We’re gonna get it on right tonight

{Second Refrain}

Lonely feeling
Jock says yes and I believe him
Deep inside
When we talk about the things I say
Find a corner
She hasn’t got the faith or the guts to leave him
Where I can hide
When they’re standing in each other’s way

Silent footsteps
You’re driven back now to places you’ve been to
Crowding me
You wonder what you’re gonna find
Sudden darkness
You know you’ve been wrong and it won’t be long
But I can see
Before you leave ‘em all far behind

{Second Refrain}

Da do da da...


14 posted on 08/31/2007 8:18:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: flashbunny
When you say "brain dead" I think you are saying that they have been sold on a false premise and faulty assumptions. Being short sited, they then fail to take that premise to its logical conclusion. I agree.

The public is woefully uneducated and therefore gullible and will follow anyone with enough guile to tell them a pleasant lie. We have been sold on global warming and told we can't drill for oil by environmentalists who have used fear to trump logic. Very few will benefit and that's exactly as it is planned.

15 posted on 08/31/2007 8:20:09 AM PDT by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
During the resulting moratorium, however, U.S. high fructose corn syrup - made from taxpayer-subsidized, cheap American corn - poured into Mexico to replace that nation's granular sugar in much of its soft drink industry.
Bad move for the Mexicans. I'm one of those who believe that the use of high-fructose corn syrup is the single biggest contributor to American obesity over the past 30 years. I rarely drink soft drinks, but when I do, I buy them at Mexican stores because most of them use real cane sugar and taste soooo much better.

16 posted on 08/31/2007 8:21:24 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: AuntB

His early policy making ideas were learned at a communist front group -—some international economic NGO of some sort.


17 posted on 08/31/2007 8:23:03 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer; All

—snickering and giggling as I repeat that in my many trips to corn country, I see almost no evidence of usage of ethanol or bio-fuel in the cultivation, harvest or processing of corn-—


18 posted on 08/31/2007 8:25:30 AM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Red Badger

The reason we have a domsetic sugar industry is because WWII casught us cut off from sugar and it had to be rationed. There are lots of South American countries who want to sell us ethanol from sugar which is cheaper. That will argue for reducing the protective tarrif on corn ethanol set to expire in 2010. However, we could end up dependant on foreign ethanol and subject to the political instabiity of South American regimes. Is that any better than depending on foreign oil?


19 posted on 08/31/2007 8:29:52 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: longtermmemmory

No, we have to prop up certain industries at the expense of consumers.


20 posted on 08/31/2007 8:43:58 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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