Posted on 08/30/2007 9:56:05 PM PDT by Josh Painter
I agree...effectively securing the border is priority #1.
But it is NOT in exchange for figuring out who is here and giving them aspirations of citizenship.
You keep overlooking that. Exactly WHO do you think Fred is talking about?
Doling out amnesty is unacceptable and one of the #1 reasons I will NOT be supporting Fred. Interestingly, there are Fred supporting econobots who, knowingly, have no problem with it.
Where do you stand? Which illegal aliens would you give amnesty to?
No one is “doling out amnesty”, and such misrepresentation is beneath you.
So I take it he won’t be in the September 5th debate? That’s actually somewhat of a disappointment, but I can deal with it. At least he’ll be in my area (Portsmouth) soon thereafter. I can’t wait!
OK. The leftist slime machine will now start and attempt to invent things that he never did.
The motto of the left is “by any means necessary”.
Whaddya mean, “Will start”? They’re already getting up a pretty good head of steam, what with his “abortion” stance (LA Times) and bagging on his wife Jeri (everyone in the MSM).
If being second in polls before declaration is dithering, I need to get dithering myself, I may get my desk cleared of work...
Damn, I was going to say something like that...
Good catch...
Like it would matter, look at Mitt, spending like a drunk sailor and still behind Fred...
I guess Duncan has a way to “beam them out”...
He should use that to “beam” himself up in the polls...
When you come up with that technology I would like to patent it. I could build a pump that moves 12 Gallons per minute but can stop a 30 gallon leak...
“Thompson will wipe the floor with the faker from Massachusetts”
Agreed. I predict one or more moments like the Lloyd Bentsen-Dan Quayle debate, where Fred waits for him to lay out one of four positions he has taken on an issue and then lands a haymaker on him that just devastates him.
BTW, Fred is now within 5 of Rudy (25-20) in Rasmussen this morning. Mitt, who had gotten as high as 17% on Wednesday, has sunk back to his normal showing of 13%. By September 15, Rudy will be in Fred’s rear view mirror too .
You are misrepresenting what Fred said, not Kimberly. In that same quote he said sending them back is “not going to happen”. For your enlightenment:
Because we allowed ourselves to wait until we woke up one day and found 12 million illegals here, theres no easy solution. And I think that you have to realize that youre either going to drive 12 million people underground permanently, which is not a good solution. Youre going to get them all together and get them out of the country, which is not going to happen. Or youre going to have to, in some way, work out a deal where they can have some aspirations of citizenship, but not make it so easy that its unfair to the people waiting in line and abiding by the law.
No worries, we’ll overcome the conservatives like you that have been doing there level best to convince everyone not to support Hunter. For your own sake.
Don’t “enlighten” me, pissant, with the same fraudulent tactics. I know that quote. I know it’s context. And I know what else Thompson has said on the issue. My interpretation is correct in that sense, and to twist it into some form of faux “open borders” position is very, very wrong.
How is announcing that you’re going to announce any different from announcing?
It will take a combination of things to get this solved. First and above all else close the border or we are spitting in the wind. Then send back the violent criminals, the ones in our jails now and those we catch later. Create a work environment that will cause as much self deportation as possible. Deport the odd ones here and there that we can catch and with time we will be down to a manageable level, perhaps with less than a quarter to a half left, and those will be doing jobs and be productive potential citizens, which is not a bad thing, it is where we got our start...
The solution has to be based in reality, it has to be fair, generally acceptable and supported by the majority, for the long haul I might add, since it will take a few years. We may not like it, but thats the facts, core conservatives don't hold a majority and if we keep acting like spoiled brats with an ax to grind we will get BUPKIS, and we will be up to our asses in illegals
These guys are not running for President of Fantasy Land...
There are only two groups throwing cold water on Fred`s campaign at this point. Disaffected crybabies like you and the liberal media. That includes the Bush/Giuliani shills over at Fox News.
Legal distinctions with the FEC.
Well, ace, “we have to work out a deal to give them aspirations for citizenship” is mush-mouth nonsense, I agree. It might mean many things, but it certainly does not mean deportations. Can you point to a quote or a proposed bill or amendment Fred made in his 8 year senate career to deport the illegals? That’s right, you can’t. Yet you believe this moderate is now a conservative on the issue. A bald Howie Baker, frankly.
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