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Conservatives DUMP Senator Larry Craig, for sticking fingers under a bathroom stall wall.

Posted on 08/30/2007 7:50:09 PM PDT by pacificus

I read the transcript of the Larry Graig interview with the Minnesota police.

I don't like what I'm hearing from other conservatives. The liberals see a cheap Senate seat and you want to give it to them because a guy moved two fingers under the stall wall in an airport bathroom.

If they had the guy on tape asking for sex, paying for sex, or photographed in the act, or any other physical proof, then I would say that looks very very bad and he should go.

But that is not the case.

This is very lame, and those of you who have never had a disagreement with a law enforecement officer should hope that a cop never accuses you of something. Because by your own action, your professional career, and or political career, should be forit, merely on the word of the officer with no physical proof or corroborating evidence.

Those of you who pass judgement, on Larry Craig, merely on the heresay and liberal spin that has been run in the press, should be ashamed.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Idaho; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 110th; gloryhole; larrycraig; polesmoker; vanity
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I do not care if he is innocent or guilty,

Yeah...obviously.

401 posted on 08/30/2007 10:43:06 PM PDT by what's up
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To: M1911A1

Oh really? So you’re calling SGT Karsnia a liar? You’re saying the cop deliberately lied in his report? In what way?


402 posted on 08/30/2007 10:44:03 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

It was a big conspiracy against the Senator. lol


403 posted on 08/30/2007 10:48:23 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Oh yeah, like Monica-gate was a VRWC against the Clintooons...


404 posted on 08/30/2007 10:51:18 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: ConservativeMind; pacificus
"You have a legitimate point."

No. Craig plead guilty. You understand what pleading guilty means don't you?

"Those of you who pass judgement, on Larry Craig, merely on the heresay and liberal spin that has been run in the press, should be ashamed."

Yeah, sure I do. Maybe I can regain my self respect if I go peeking in toilet stalls to find someone, play footsie with them and reach under the wall and waive at them. Oh, and then plead guilty when I'm busted.

405 posted on 08/30/2007 10:51:32 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: La Enchiladita

It’s hilarious some here are demanding his innocence, while he signed a plea of guilt.


406 posted on 08/30/2007 10:52:29 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
It’s hilarious some here are demanding his innocence, while he signed a plea of guilt.

If I plead guilty to Reckless and Imprudent Driving am I guilty of Driving while intoxicated as well?

407 posted on 08/30/2007 10:54:04 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: pacificus; Eric Blair 2084
Re: Conservatives DUMP Senator Larry Craig, for sticking fingers under a bathroom stall wall.

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm... me don't thinks it was his sticking his finger anywhere that got him in trouble to here!

408 posted on 08/30/2007 10:55:02 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: La Enchiladita
The interrogator said he saw Craig’s wedding ring (left hand) then was caught when Craig said he used only his right. The cop balked and said he may have changed the ring to his right, then stood his ground saying he could have crossed across his body to reach. A lawyers wet dream. The transcript is full of bullying into a confession/plea.
409 posted on 08/30/2007 10:55:31 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: endthematrix

You’re using logic, but you’ll be labelled a conspiracy theorist for it .


410 posted on 08/30/2007 10:58:41 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist ( Who's " Bot " are you ?)
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To: what's up
Yeah...obviously.

What I do not understand is why YOU care so much. In what way does his guilt or innocense affect his ability to benefit the Republic. It is clear that he can not be of any help to our country, since he has no political influence and never will have any. In the mean time, the longer he stays in office, the more the media will tie him and his behavior to our party. If he were out of the way, the new GOP Senator could build a record and increase the odds of holding the seat.

411 posted on 08/30/2007 10:59:12 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: the808bass
It’s hilarious some here are demanding his innocence, while he signed a plea of guilt.

If I plead guilty to Reckless and Imprudent Driving am I guilty of Driving while intoxicated as well?

Lets get back on track Fred. If someone even suggested you were a kinky bucket mouth, and even implied you were some kind of perverted public bathroom sexual deviate, would you go along with it and plead guilty to *any* of it?

Well?

lol...

412 posted on 08/30/2007 10:59:52 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Bonaparte
According to Craig, he kept sticking his foot under the divider because he has a "wide stance" at the toilet. According to Craig, he reached under the divider (several times??) because he'd "dropped a piece of paper." I haven't heard his explanation yet for why he initially peered at the officer through the crack at the stall jamb before entering the adjacent stall, but I'll bet it's a whopper also.

In the interview, Craig said he has a wide stance to keep his pants from falling down whilst sitting on the crapper. He does not said he "kept sticking his foot under the divider." He does not either agree that he reached under the divider several times, only once. Nor does he say that he was staring through the crack in the stall. The officer only says that their eyes met through the crack. Yup, quite a whopper.

I'm not sure what I think about this after reading the transcript. It's all odd. The policeman is immediately referring to the Senator's voting constituency, going to the press, how this country's going down the toilet. And Craig denies all of the allegations while saying "you solicited me."

In short, it's not an "open/shut" kinda deal, IMHO.

413 posted on 08/30/2007 11:00:41 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: dragnet2
Lets get back on track Fred.

I do apologize for forcing logic upon you. I shan't do it again. Continue on apace.

414 posted on 08/30/2007 11:02:14 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: dragnet2

Uh, there are plenty of confirmed cases in Chicago alone, where cops say, “just sign this, and you get to leave” Then after five or so years after confessing to crime the cops knew was a lie, they see freedom.


415 posted on 08/30/2007 11:03:20 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
In what way does his guilt or innocense affect his ability to benefit the Republic

Obviously, his innocence would mean we retain one of the most conservative Senators in the Senate.

You can't figure that out?

416 posted on 08/30/2007 11:03:28 PM PDT by what's up
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To: the808bass

If someone even suggested you were a kinky bucket mouth, and even implied you were some kind of perverted public bathroom sexual deviate, would you go along with it and plead guilty to *any* of it?

Well?


417 posted on 08/30/2007 11:03:30 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: jess35
"Unless there’s some statute that says you can’t put your hand below the divider in a bathroom stall, Craig should never have been questioned by the police."

It is disorderly conduct to do such a thing, w/o legitimate justification, because it greatly annoy's people. Especially after it follows peeking in and an attempt to play footsie. It would have been justifiable to hand Craig a used TP sheet.

418 posted on 08/30/2007 11:03:58 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: dragnet2

I’m curious as to who said that it was a grand conspiracy ?


419 posted on 08/30/2007 11:05:29 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist ( Who's " Bot " are you ?)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
"In what way does his guilt or innocense affect his ability to benefit the Republic. It is clear that he can not be of any help to our country, since he has no political influence and never will have any. "

Your statement alone is an injustice.

420 posted on 08/30/2007 11:06:59 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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