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Senator Larry Craig lied, say cops
The New York Daily News ^ | August 30, 2007

Posted on 08/30/2007 6:37:17 PM PDT by Stoat

Senator Larry Craig lied, say cops


THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Thursday, August 30th 2007, 7:57 PM


 
A Minneapolis police officer has accused Senator Larry Craig of lying in an interview after his arrest. <b>(Click photo to hear audio of Craig's interview with police.)</b>

A Minneapolis police officer has accused Senator Larry Craig of lying in an interview after his arrest.


 

WASHINGTON - The officer who arrested Sen. Larry Craig in a police undercover operation at an airport men's room accused the senator of lying to him during an interrogation afterward, according to an audiotape of the arrest.

On the tape, released Thursday by the Minneapolis Airport Police, the Idaho Republican senator, in turn, accuses the officer of soliciting him for sex.

"I'm not gay. I don't do these kinds of things," Craig told Sgt. Dave Karsnia minutes after the two men met in a men's room at the airport on June 11.

"You shouldn't be out to entrap people," Craig told the officer. "I don't want you to take me to jail."

Karsnia replied that Craig wouldn't be going to jail as long as he cooperates.

At one point during the interrogation, the officer told Craig: "You're not being truthful with me. I'm kind of disappointed in you, senator."

Meanwhile, more of Craig's Republican colleagues moved away from him Thursday in the wake of his guilty plea earlier this month to a reduced charge of disorderly conduct in the undercover police operation aimed at sex solicitors.

Sen. John Ensign of Nevada, who chairs the GOP's senatorial campaign committee, stopped short of calling on Craig to resign, but suggested strongly that he should.

"I wouldn't put myself hopefully in that kind of position, but if I was in a position like that, that's what I would do," Ensign told The Associated Press in his home state. "He's going to have to answer that for himself."

Sens. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., and Susan Collins, R-Maine, each turned over to charity $2,500 campaign donations they had received from Craig's political action committee. Coleman and Collins both face potentially tough faces for re-election next year.

Coleman and several other Republicans - including Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. - have called for Craig to resign his seat in the Senate. Craig already has agreed to a request by Republican leaders to give up his ranking status on the Veterans Affairs Committee and appropriations subcommittees.

Craig said Tuesday he had committed no wrongdoing and shouldn't have pleaded guilty. He said he had only recently retained a lawyer to advise him in the case, which threatens to write an ignominious end to a lifetime in public office.

GOP Senate leaders said they did not act lightly in asking Craig to give up his leadership posts temporarily. But they said their decision was "in the best interest of the Senate until this situation is resolved by the ethics committee."

On the tape, Craig and the arresting officer can be heard arguing over what happened in the men's room minutes earlier. Craig acknowledges that the men's feet bumped, but says nothing improper happened.

"Did we bump? Yes, I think we did. You said so. I don't disagree with that," Craig said.

But Craig disputes the officer's account that he swept his hand under the stall next to him in an apparent effort to advance the encounter. They even disagree whether Craig used his right hand or his left hand.

Craig said he was merely trying to pick up a piece of paper - an account the officer disputes.

"I'm telling you that I could see, so I know that's your left hand. Also I could see a gold ring on this finger, so that's obvious it was the left hand," Karsnia tells Craig.

"Well we can dispute that," Craig says. "I'm not going to fight you in court. I reached down with my right hand to pick up the paper."

Meanwhile, Idaho Republican Gov. C.L. (Butch) Otter told CNN that Craig's loss of his committee leadership posts was "problematic," adding: "I'm sure Larry and his family are going to take those things into consideration as they go forward with their decisions."

Rep. Mike Simpson, R-Idaho, said that "like most Idahoans, I was shocked by the allegations against Larry and by his guilty plea. However, I tend to judge people by the totality of their career and Senator Craig has been a dedicated public servant who has been an asset for Idaho for almost 30 years. At this time, I will not pass judgment on this matter."



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: 110th; craig; dirtyoldman; homosexual; larrycraig; laughingstock; lewdlarry; pervert; perverts; prvert; republican; rino
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To: cajungirl
This man is being tried and convicted and sentenced on this thread

Actually, I'm mainly seeing people who are proud of their Republican Party, and who want it to be even better, wanting him to leave.

I haven't heard anyone advocating prison time without due process.

41 posted on 08/30/2007 7:15:12 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: shrinkermd

“Resignation might please a few, but cowardice will please no one”

What a brillant idea. Let the democrats and MSM pound the GOP up to the 08 election. Mark Floey Redux.


42 posted on 08/30/2007 7:16:04 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Stoat

The most sickening thing about this whole scandal is that even the RATS admit that if this perv was a fellow RAT, they’d be defending his “right” to troll bathrooms for homo sex. The RATS will always beat the ‘pubs in this area, simply because the RATS have no sense of shame.


43 posted on 08/30/2007 7:16:15 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: cajungirl

Look, we all know a democrat would be applauded for coming out of the closet.

BUT, here in Idaho, we wrote his sorry butt off when he supported shamnesty. If this is what it takes to get rid of him, great. Amnesty will have 1 less vote.

I wonder if he has actually been compromised before? If there was ever any extortion against him from someone in the know.This is why people with shady and/or risky backgrounds should not be in positions of power.

BTW, how can you have a “wide stance” with your drawers around your ankles? Has anyone here actually come close to putting his foot under an adjacent stall? It is near impossible, particularly in an airport john. How wide are the stalls where he got busted? I’ve never been in one where I could touch my knees to the walls, so how do you get your feet over there when you are hobbled?


44 posted on 08/30/2007 7:16:31 PM PDT by Idaho Whacko
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To: traumer

http://ummyeah.com/page/Seinfeld_the_Stall_Clip


45 posted on 08/30/2007 7:17:25 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Rudder

You defense attorney? No wonder it is broken.

I have heard that many times. Until you are wrongly accused you will unthinkingly say that. I have seen people like you change in a heartbeat when it happens to them.


46 posted on 08/30/2007 7:17:46 PM PDT by amihow
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To: weegee
Can we trust that the media will be likewise disgusted when the NEXT Congressman is caught engaging in this practice, regardless of party or political season?

I understand your frustration about the apparent lack of evenhandedness regarding this, but that's one of the things that makes Republicans better than Democrats. We eliminate our perverts as fast as possible, the Rats rally round theirs. We should be glad that the media is an unwitting accomplice in showing the American public that there usually is a difference when you go to the polls, even if you generally don't know a thing about the particular candidates.

When the Republicans cease to care about who wears the name, then this 'Good Housekeeping' seal's value will have been lost.

47 posted on 08/30/2007 7:18:30 PM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: SkyPilot
Is that abcnews image photo shopped on an angle to make the stalls larger and the probability of feet touching less likely?


48 posted on 08/30/2007 7:18:55 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Palladin

Exactly!

His video response the other day reminded me of when I watched Clinton on tv do the same thing.


49 posted on 08/30/2007 7:19:16 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Clintonfatigued
He tried to perform a sex act in a public place

That is absolutely false.

Tapping toes is not "performing a sex act".

50 posted on 08/30/2007 7:19:52 PM PDT by what's up
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To: wpa_mikeb
One thing I can’t seem to find the answer to -— did those cops bust anyone else in this bathroom sting?

A good question. And one that I have not heard the answer to.

Set up and blackmail is not beyond the realm of possibility although it does stretch the credibility quite a bit.

51 posted on 08/30/2007 7:20:33 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: linn37
You have a very valid point. I had no idea that this kind of thing went on in men’s bathrooms, and to think I get annoyed when some ladies over do the hairspray or take the only sink with a full soap dispenser. Who knew?
52 posted on 08/30/2007 7:20:36 PM PDT by Tully Pettigrew 1
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To: Tribune7

I feel sorry for the guy.

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I don’t. But I feel sorry for his wife and his family.


53 posted on 08/30/2007 7:21:02 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: linn37

“He’s guilty cause the cop said so and we all know cops are never wrong.”

He’s guilty because he chose not to hire an attorney and fight this.

His trouble originates from his guilty plea.


54 posted on 08/30/2007 7:21:12 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: hunter112
When the Republicans cease to care about who wears the name, then this 'Good Housekeeping' seal's value will have been lost.Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
55 posted on 08/30/2007 7:22:02 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: maggief

Why are those guys crapping with their pants on?


56 posted on 08/30/2007 7:22:18 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: Stoat

“This man is being tried and convicted and sentenced on this thread”

No we are not. Larry Craig plead guilty.


57 posted on 08/30/2007 7:24:06 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
so I guess it’s open and shut....

It's open and shut when you plead guilty.
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58 posted on 08/30/2007 7:25:08 PM PDT by radioman
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To: tennmountainman
His trouble originates from his guilty plea.

He did not plea guilty to lewdness.

In fact, he denies it over and over again if you read/hear the transcript.

59 posted on 08/30/2007 7:25:13 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Idaho Whacko

“BUT, here in Idaho, we wrote his sorry butt off when he supported shamnesty. If this is what it takes to get rid of him, great. Amnesty will have 1 less vote.”

Right on target.

Posters here who support Craig don’t get it.

He’s finished period. He will soon be a memory. The GOP governor in Idaho will appoint a new GOP Senator and life will go on...with one less Senate Vote for Amnesty. That’s a good thing.


60 posted on 08/30/2007 7:27:10 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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