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Children? Or are we 'adult-centered'?
Daily Herald ^ | 8/30/07 | Ben Arnoldy

Posted on 08/30/2007 9:06:05 AM PDT by qam1

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Notice the Libs in this article are mostly upset about losing to ability to use children as an excuse to raise taxes/increase government
1 posted on 08/30/2007 9:06:08 AM PDT by qam1
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This is being counter-balanced by all the adults who refuse to grow up.


2 posted on 08/30/2007 9:09:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
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Both partners having to work full time just to pay the bills makes it harder for people my age to have kids.


3 posted on 08/30/2007 9:09:32 AM PDT by mysterio
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I don’t blame young people for not wanting kids and having to put them in our dumbed down schools. The teachers in our schools today don’t care about the kids and rip off the state for most of its money. I think we would find better education if people had to pay for their childs education and those that don’t have children, shouldn’t pay anything. Those that had to pay would make sure they would get their moneys worth.


4 posted on 08/30/2007 9:09:35 AM PDT by RC2
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5 posted on 08/30/2007 9:11:20 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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You make a really good point. This is why homeschooling is becoming a gargantuan hit and will continue to do so.


6 posted on 08/30/2007 9:11:48 AM PDT by xc1427 (It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees...Midnight Oil (Power and the Passion))
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“In dozens of sit-down interviews with childless individuals, Scott also found generally high support for public education and community programs for children. “

Funny how it’s the childless couples who want the most government intrusion into child rearing.


7 posted on 08/30/2007 9:11:56 AM PDT by Dreagon
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child-free workers also can be left picking up the slack for co-workers on family leave, says Thomas Coleman with Unmarried America, a nonprofit information service about unmarried adults based in Glendale, Calif.

This guy is a gay-rights activist. It doesn't note that in the article but should be clarified when considering his views. He's one of the 'old school' anti-marriage crowd (lawyer).
8 posted on 08/30/2007 9:20:02 AM PDT by kinoxi
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I think society should be adult-centered, not child-centered. “Back in my day,” parents were not so uber-involved in all the extra-curricular activities of their children, like most parents are today.

My BIL just moved his daughter into college last week. He says he will have a very difficult time with empty-nest syndrome, because he and his wife spent so much of their time going to all of her basketball and volleyball games, which were several nights a week. Now I supppose he and his wife are just going to stare at each other across the table, not knowing what to talk about.

A healthy family is one where the marriage is at the center, not the kids. Just my humble opinion. :-)


9 posted on 08/30/2007 9:22:34 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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And he worries about a shift at the ballot box. In New Jersey, voters rejected nearly half of school budgets in the state last year -- the lowest passage rate in more than a decade

Here in New Jersey, we've taken to voting down school budgets because we're voting against high taxes. We're not voting against children.

The article missed that point. In NJ we pay the highest property taxes in the nation (hence my screenname), and the property taxes consist mostly of school tax.

10 posted on 08/30/2007 9:23:23 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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A healthy family is one where the marriage is at the center, not the kids. Just my humble opinion. :-)

Amen! When parents make children (as opposed to the marriage) the center of their lives, it puts a huge burden on the kids, from childhood through adulthood.

11 posted on 08/30/2007 9:26:13 AM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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Quite true. There are a lot of adults who don’t want to grow up and put the burden of being adult on their cihldren.


12 posted on 08/30/2007 9:28:30 AM PDT by Niuhuru (businesslinkshere.com)
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There are alot of adults that SHOULD NOT have children.


13 posted on 08/30/2007 9:36:03 AM PDT by shbox
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Now now, don’t upset the theocrats. Don’t you know that is G-D’s command to go forth and multiply?!?!?! Pretty soon the theocrats will be all over you saying “what kind of a selfish, abortionist, euthanasia preaching Nazi *ARE* you- don’t you know the Muslims and Mexicans are breeding like crazy?!?!?!?” Besides, according to the Official Religion all childfree couples are godless, lazy, self-centered sinners who don’t want to grow up. Get with the program!
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14 posted on 08/30/2007 9:46:18 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (When the government fears the People= Liberty. When the People fear the Government =Tyranny)
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I didn’t really grow up until I had a child. Childlessness leads to childishness.


15 posted on 08/30/2007 9:47:40 AM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: mysterio
Both partners having to work full time just to pay the bills makes it harder for people my age to have kids.

When we were first married, my lovely bride and I knew we couldn't afford kids. My sister-in-law commented that if we waited until we can afford them, we might never have them.

Our first child was born nine days after our first anniversary. We struggled for decades on my job plus Mrs. Chandler's providing day care for other folks. We drove some pretty crappy cars over the years. Our home was small. We didn't have the latest toys or go on expensive vacations. But our kids all turned out great and we have a very close extended family.

It's all in your priorities.

16 posted on 08/30/2007 9:52:36 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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When I was a kid, there weren't that many other kids to play with, Annie Hall beat Star Wars for an Oscar and TV was full of free love and cigarette and liqour ads.

When I was in college, it was all AIDs and STDs and a nice recession when I graduated. Liqour and cigarette ads were banned.

Now that I'm an adult and have kids, there aren't that many other couples with kids, people don't want them around and TV is all Viagra and retirement ads....

That's what it is to be a Gen-Xer.

17 posted on 08/30/2007 9:59:27 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (I'll be the 'Junior Guy' until I'm 70.)
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Well....I went out to lunch last week to a pizza joint. As soon as I walked in, I noticed 15 to 20 children in the place. I turned right around and went somewhere else. I don’t hate children. I just don’t particularly like them. Not all the time....


18 posted on 08/30/2007 10:01:17 AM PDT by shbox
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To: Finny; Abigail Adams
A healthy family is one where the marriage is at the center, not the kids. Just my humble opinion. :-)

Amen! When parents make children (as opposed to the marriage) the center of their lives, it puts a huge burden on the kids, from childhood through adulthood.

You're both close to the truth. There is a time for everything. When children arrive, the focus of the relationship naturally shifts to them because by their very nature they require the attention. But the parents shouldn't substitute the childrens' lives for their own. Part of child rearing is modeling a healthy marriage. And I agree that parents who are emotional parasites of their children do no one any good.

19 posted on 08/30/2007 10:02:29 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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I don’t hate children.

I think kids are great, but sometimes I prefer peace and quiet, too.

20 posted on 08/30/2007 10:03:42 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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