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Migrants Self-Deporting In Arizona
Captain's Quarters ^ | August 27, 2007 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 08/27/2007 4:57:42 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

Yesterday's Arizona Republic reported on an interesting phenomenon taking place as a new workplace identification law approaches implementation. Those workers with no documentation -- in other words, illegal aliens -- have begun to sell off their property and leave the state:

Undocumented immigrants are starting to leave Arizona because of the new employer-sanctions law. The state's strong economy has been a magnet for illegal immigrants for years. But a growing number are pulling up stakes out of fear they will be jobless come Jan. 1, when the law takes effect. The departures are drawing cheers from immigration hard-liners and alarm from business owners already seeing a drop in sales.

It's impossible to count how many undocumented immigrants have fled because of the new law. But based on interviews with undocumented immigrants, immigrant advocates, community leaders and real-estate agents, at least several hundred have left since Democratic Gov. Janet Napolitano signed the bill on July 2. There are an estimated 500,000 illegal immigrants in Arizona.

Some are moving to other states, where they think they will have an easier time getting jobs. Others are returning to Mexico, selling their effects and putting their houses on the market.

The number departing is expected to mushroom as the Jan. 1 deadline draws closer. After that, the law will require employers to verify the employment eligibility of their workers through a federal database.

The immigration hard-liners appear to have proven one of their main arguments. Illegal immigrants who face a loss of employment due to strict employer sanctions will move elsewhere, and rather quickly. One talk-radio host that caters to what the Republic calls "undocumented immigrants" estimates that the departure rate has already hit 100 per day. It will likely increase until most of them depart before the end of the year, when their jobs will disappear.

Arizona passed employer sanctions with a particular bite. Rather than set up an escalating series of fines, which has been the federal approach, the state opted to put employers out of business. A first offense gets a ten-day suspension of the firm's business license, which would close the doors during that period. A subsequent offense revokes the business license permanently. Needless to say, that has provided an incentive to business owners to start checking identities through the federal database and terminating anyone who doesn't clear the system.

The Arizona Chamber of Commerce heads a coalition that wants the law repealed based on a Constitutional challenge, but it's hard to see how they can succeed. The state can impose sanctions on business licenses it issues, and it can insist that employers check for worker eligibility. The real issue for the ACC is labor shortages. The state currently has an unemployment rate of 3.7%, statistically full employment. Arizona employers will have to raise wages to compete for workers, which will cost consumers more but allow for more money in the market as well. It also might prompt business to push for automation where possible, using technology to fill the gaps.

However, the state does have around 9% of its workforce comprised by illegals. They rent houses and apartments, shop for food, and consume just like anyone else does in Arizona. When they disappear, the state will undoubtedly suffer a hit to the economy, especially in housing, which could depress real-estate values in some areas. Some of the immigrants own houses, and they have to sell them fast, which has glutted the resale market in the state. Secondary markets like furniture and home improvement have slowed considerably in Arizona, too.

Proponents of federalism often refer to states as laboratories for political experiments. Arizona's efforts on employer sanctions will prove an interesting test case for employer-based immigration sanctions.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; az; crimaliens; employersanctions; enforcement; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration; selfdeportation
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To: rabscuttle385

“Refinancing the homes, taking the cash, and returning to Mexico, leaving the bank stuck with the mortgages? Oh no!”

Boy, I never saw that coming.


21 posted on 08/27/2007 5:28:44 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Who needs buses and trains when they leave when the laws are enforced.


22 posted on 08/27/2007 5:29:41 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker

>Refinancing the homes, taking the cash, and returning to Mexico, leaving the bank stuck with the mortgages? Oh no!<

They sure picked the wrong time to be refinancing. No tears from me.


23 posted on 08/27/2007 5:31:45 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: greyfoxx39

Similar reports have come from Oklahoma and Georgia, both of which passed strong anti-illegal legislation recently.

Laws do work.


24 posted on 08/27/2007 5:33:36 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Let's Roll

I wonder how many will be Bank of America mortgages.

Poetic justice


25 posted on 08/27/2007 5:44:04 PM PDT by Principled (Vaporize the "Divide and Conquer" taxes - Have everyone pay the same marginal rate!. NRST!)
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26 posted on 08/27/2007 5:45:07 PM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: rabscuttle385
Refinancing the homes, taking the cash, and returning to Mexico, leaving the bank stuck with the mortgages? Oh no!

I'm trying hard to feel sorry for these lenders/investors.

*grunt*

Can't do it.

27 posted on 08/27/2007 5:45:44 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: pillut48

I’m waiting for the CHP to stop giving speeding tickets because they clearly can’t catch everybody.


28 posted on 08/27/2007 5:45:47 PM PDT by pierstroll
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To: greyfoxx39

This article made me smile.

I love it. I hope the fever continues to catch on.


29 posted on 08/27/2007 5:51:16 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: greyfoxx39
The state currently has an unemployment rate of 3.7%, statistically full employment. Arizona employers will have to raise wages to compete for workers, which will cost consumers more but allow for more money in the market as well. It also might prompt business to push for automation where possible, using technology to fill the gaps.

That's the way it should be.

30 posted on 08/27/2007 5:55:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; T.L.Sink; fieldmarshaldj; ExTexasRedhead; EternalVigilance; SSS Two; sinkspur; ...

This is some welcome news. Hopefully, the beginning of a trend.


31 posted on 08/27/2007 5:57:39 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: greyfoxx39
Attention illegals! Time for Geography 101:



Any questions?
32 posted on 08/27/2007 5:57:48 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (From my fist to Harry Reid's face)
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To: greyfoxx39

While some businesses may complain at first, the net result will in a longer time frame be (1) more jobs-at-living-wages offered, (2)price reductions for all things local - housing included - for everyone who remains, which taken together will in time comprise part of local economic recovery.

Maybe some lower-middle class high-school kids will actually be able to save for college on lawn-care, fast food, newspaper delivery and grocery store work, in their teens, as I did. No one offers those jobs to teens as often now when legal and illegal immigrants are willing to fill all those jobs at less-than minimum wages and without the constraints of school-attending-teens available hours.

As a teen, I had a set of year-round lawn-care customers, a morning or evening paper route and worked at available hours at grocery stores and fast-food locations (pre-McDonalds). Most anywhere I go in the U.S. today, every one of those jobs are filled by an adult Hispanic immigrant (legal or illegal), while lower middle class families have a hard time making ends meet.

Well, my parents always had a hard time making ends meet too (eight kids and on military pay for most years), but I was able to compensate (always bought my own clothes, had my own spending money, bought a new bicycle on a regular bank loan and saved some) and never knew we were “poor”.

Both the work opportunities for teens and family ethics for teens to work are greatly diminished today. Ending excessive immigration at the low-skilled level can help reverse those trends, and financially help lower middle class families, by creating more demand and opportunities for employable teens.

Watch, that is exactly what happens and the liberals will start yelling that we need to boost immigration again - because teens are being “over-worked”.


33 posted on 08/27/2007 6:05:56 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: greyfoxx39

Faster, faster . . .


34 posted on 08/27/2007 6:08:04 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: greyfoxx39

That’s the ticket. Put the burden and cost entirely on the businesses. Dems love this program, because they don’t want to build The Fence.


35 posted on 08/27/2007 6:09:11 PM PDT by gotribe (I've been disenfranchised by the GOP.)
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To: B4Ranch

There’s another big questions not addressed. How the hell did they get houses financed? How are they processing papers with tax assessors? How can they set up accounts with with utility companies?

Never mind. We all know how.


36 posted on 08/27/2007 6:12:22 PM PDT by hdstmf
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To: G8 Diplomat

Can someone put that in Spanish?


37 posted on 08/27/2007 6:22:39 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: skeeter

I’ll bet the ones from Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and other ME countries, that came here illegally, won’t be leaving until their dirty work is done. What do you bet?


38 posted on 08/27/2007 6:23:11 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: AmericanInTokyo

¡Atención inmigrantes ilegales!

El tuyo
El nuestros
El suyo

¿Preguntas?

Could be a little off, I used BabelFish.


39 posted on 08/27/2007 6:29:14 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (From my fist to Harry Reid's face)
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To: jalexson
...but then the anti immmigrant crowd doesn't care what happens to the economy.

That's a crock if I ever heard one.

The anti-ILLEGAL crowd cares very much about our economy. Think of all the tax money that will be freed up as we stop paying for illegals FREE health care and education, and welfare and food stamps.

Think of all the rapes, the drunk driving killings, the police murders that will go down.

What some people don't realize is that there's much more to be gained that has no $$$$$$ value. The economy will be OK. People will manage. And we'll all be a lot safer.

40 posted on 08/27/2007 6:34:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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