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History Channel Debunks 9/11 Truthers: 9/11 Conspiracies [TIVO ALERT tonight 9pm]
History Channel ^ | 8/20/07 | History Channel

Posted on 08/20/2007 3:34:40 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia

9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction

Examines the various conspiracy theories espoused on the Internet, in articles and in public forums that attempt to explain the 9/11 attacks. It includes theories that the World Trade Center was brought down by a controlled demolition; that a missile, not a commercial airliner, hit the Pentagon; and that members of the U.S. government orchestrated the attacks in hopes of creating a war in the Middle East. Each conspiracy argument is countered by a variety of experts in the fields of engineering, intelligence and the military. The program also delves into the anatomy of such conspiracies and how they grow on the Internet.

Schedule: Monday, August 20 09:00 PM

Tuesday, August 21 01:00 AM

Saturday, August 25 08:00 PM

Sunday, August 26 12:00 AM


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911conspiracy; conspiracy; hisorychannel; tinfoil; truthers
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

ping to watch replat later after work


41 posted on 08/20/2007 5:43:13 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: PJ-Comix
I’m going to watch it so I can LAUGH at the NUtcases.

Yeah, I'll probably watch too if it's on at 8 here (Midwest). I'm getting bored with the PC. I've been on it all day. Sheesh!

42 posted on 08/20/2007 5:44:29 PM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
Calling all Paulbots!!!!!!
43 posted on 08/20/2007 5:44:59 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
An expose (if this is what this is) will not make the slightest difference to the Orwellian named "truthers."

I was perusing the discount book table last weekend in the 'political conspiracy' section and there are a heap of loony left books that think the whole Muslim jihad thing is made up by the evil Karl Rove/Dick Cheney/Haliburton/Bush family. Just reading the outlines on the inside cover gave me chills that anyone can be this delusional. I suppose I should have been encouraged by the fact they were in the discount aisle and didn't find an audience.
44 posted on 08/20/2007 5:49:56 PM PDT by JayNorth
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Amazing. Otherwsie bright people who absolutley believe this crap- no matter how many facts are explained to them.

But I’m watching it anyway!


45 posted on 08/20/2007 6:44:49 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

It was space aliens. They immobilized all the residents of WTC with simultaneous anal probes.


46 posted on 08/20/2007 8:14:55 PM PDT by sgtyork ("The Press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood." Thomas Jefferson 1807)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

It was space aliens. They immobilized all the residents of WTC with simultaneous anal probes.


47 posted on 08/20/2007 8:15:00 PM PDT by sgtyork ("The Press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood." Thomas Jefferson 1807)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

I watched part of the show while I was recording it. It seemed to do a pretty good job of debunking the conspiracy nuts. Most of the nutjobs seemed to be so involved in their own delusions they could never admit the truth, and some of them seemed totally deranged. The kids who made some conspiracy documentary admitted that they had to keep editing their film as one lie after another was disproved, and they almost seemed to realize they were wrong, but were in too far to quit lying.


48 posted on 08/20/2007 8:40:03 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Ferris

“How does that happen without intentional, internal weakening of the support columns, that couldn’t have been done by the small amount of damage to that building...”

Are you serious? I’m no engineer by any stretch of the imagination...but, what are you suggesting here?


49 posted on 08/20/2007 8:41:40 PM PDT by Into the Vortex
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To: ozzymandus
Some of them seemed totally deranged

Some of them? LOL! Actually I was surprised, these people actually look and sound like the screwballs they are. A bunch of complete loser, misfits with severe mental illnesses. Sad really

50 posted on 08/20/2007 8:42:49 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: Ferris

You should have watched the show. You may have learned something like the fact the building didn’t have support columns but trusses and when the trusses finally heated to the point of weakening, it collapsed. The fires were fed by diesel that were used to run emergency generators in that area. See what happened to the truss bridge in Min a few weeks ago when one little area failed? Catastrophic huh? I guess it should have fallen slower, like the movies.

Problem is, too few Americans today have any real scientific knowledge or experience in building and making things anymore. All their knowledge comes from movies and that’s the model they use to judge real events. It’s all magic to them.


51 posted on 08/20/2007 8:50:08 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

They all looked like crazy losers, but some of them looked actually deranged. I saw one middle-aged hippie woman complaining about something, and my first thought was that she looks (and acts) exactly like the local librarian, a clueless “progressive”.


52 posted on 08/20/2007 8:53:29 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Ferris

Rosie, is that you?


53 posted on 08/20/2007 8:54:54 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus
Na Rosie's moved on: Science news from Rosie: Do lies cause cancer?
54 posted on 08/20/2007 9:00:48 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
I watched it. Well done overall.

My strongest reaction is sorrow for all the innocent people murdered that fateful day, especially the families and friends left grieving. So many of the conspiracy folks paint them as having an active role in the events of that day. It’s shameful any conspiracy theories stoop this low.

My second strongest reaction is that those spreading the theories must be taken to task to present their facts. Despite our right of freedom of speech, one does not have a right to yell “Fire” in a packed theater. My opinion is that these theorists are doing precisely that, yelling fire in hopes of causing confusion, panic, mayhem and causalities. Only the amount of time to garner the results are drawn out over a long period of time. If all else fails, the grieving families should consider civil suits against those implicating murder victims in their plots.

The only conspiracy I felt present by our government on 9-11 was a rush by government officials to cover their butts. Most, if not all, claimed they had no prior knowledge an attack might be forthcoming. I knew that a lie because many of my family had to travel to Massachusetts a few days prior. One of my sisters and I even discussed the government terrorist alert issued in August of 2001. Security was very lax when we arrived, but it was very intense the evening of 9-10 when we boarded our return flights. I wouldn’t actually call the reaction of the government officials a conspiracy. They were all busy doing a CYA. No one wanted to be seen as having been a part of the breakdown in security.

55 posted on 08/20/2007 11:37:58 PM PDT by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: G8 Diplomat
"Have you ever noticed how the left always includes the word "truth" in their propaganda? An Inconvenient TRUTH, The TRUTH about 9/11...just like the Soviet newspaper Pravda, the Russian word for "truth." With the word "truth" in it, it sounds more convincing to the unsuspecting layman, and that's how they hope to get people to believe this stuff."

Joe Wilson, "The Politics of Truth" ..... yes, all the nutjobs love to babble about 'truth' as though they exist in the reality-based universe when in fact they are nutjobs.
56 posted on 08/20/2007 11:46:43 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Ferris

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Go find one of the nutter sites to enjoy some kindred spirits.


57 posted on 08/20/2007 11:51:33 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Into the Vortex
"Are you serious? I’m no engineer by any stretch of the imagination...but, what are you suggesting here?"

Am I serious?

There's only 2 possible ways in existence for that building to go down. Either all by itself, or with help.

Buildings that go down by themselves don't go down the way building 7 did.. Buildings that do get help to fall, go down seemingly exactly the way building 7 went down...

So which is it?

How is that possible? Have you even seen any of the footage?

58 posted on 08/21/2007 8:36:56 AM PDT by Ferris (Man must soon come to grips with the power of his own consciousness)
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To: Enchante
You have no idea what you are talking about

What is it that I have no idea what I'm talking about? Well please enlighten me then.

I merely posed a question based on visual evidence around bldg 7. Maybe you have a comment on the actual topic.. Did you actually see any of the vast amount of footage on the collapse of building 7??

How did it all go down at once?

59 posted on 08/21/2007 8:42:23 AM PDT by Ferris (Man must soon come to grips with the power of his own consciousness)
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To: Ferris
Buildings that go down by themselves don't go down the way building 7 did.. Buildings that do get help to fall, go down seemingly exactly the way building 7 went down...

Building 7 did have help - 2 huge buildings collapsing right next to it that caused massive damage. Have you seen the footage from the damaged side of the building rather than from the undamaged side?

60 posted on 08/21/2007 8:45:57 AM PDT by ConfusedAndLovingIt
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