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To: Enchante
You have no idea what you are talking about

What is it that I have no idea what I'm talking about? Well please enlighten me then.

I merely posed a question based on visual evidence around bldg 7. Maybe you have a comment on the actual topic.. Did you actually see any of the vast amount of footage on the collapse of building 7??

How did it all go down at once?

59 posted on 08/21/2007 8:42:23 AM PDT by Ferris (Man must soon come to grips with the power of his own consciousness)
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To: Ferris

The collapse of WTC-7 did result from outside ‘help’ but not of any US-conspiratorial kind. It is quite clear that damage and fires caused by the attacks on the towers can explain what happened to WTC-7. There was severe damage to 10 stories of the south side of the building from the collapse of the towers. There were fires burning all day long inside WTC-7, unhindered, and fueled by diesel fuel stored for generators. There is excellent reason to believe that trusses and columns which were critical to the building’s stability were damaged and/or over-stressed. I have no patience for people who toss around bogus conspiracy theories about the events of that day without even exerting themselves to do a minimum of genuine research easily available on the web (NOT counting all the nutter sites that are full of nonsense). While there are things that may never be known with any degree of certainty bout the collapse of WTC-7, it is quite clear that enough is known to say emphatically that there IS a highly plausible scenario to explain how the collapse of that building resulted from the known 9/11 attacks on the towers, and not from any conspiratorial ravings about hidden explosives and controlled demolition (which is itself a completely ridiculous scenario, even if we did not know all that is known about damages and fires in WTC-7).

Here’s a simple beginning to addressing the points you raise:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5

FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA’s preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. “The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7,” NIST’s Sunder tells PM. “On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom — approximately 10 stories — about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out.” NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7’s upper stories and its southwest corner.

NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST’s analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of “progressive collapse,” a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or “kinks,” in the building’s facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.

According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building’s failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. “What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors,” Sunder notes, “it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down.”

There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building’s other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.

Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. “There was no firefighting in WTC 7,” Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: “Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time.”

WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors — along with the building’s unusual construction — were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.


64 posted on 08/21/2007 9:26:29 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Ferris
Unfastened Coins
67 posted on 08/22/2007 7:59:30 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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