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We have broken speed of light
Telegraph ^
| 08/16/2007
| Nic Fleming, Science Correspondent
Posted on 08/17/2007 8:19:28 AM PDT by poiuqwer
A pair of German physicists claim to have broken the speed of light - an achievement that would undermine our entire understanding of space and time.
According to Einstein's special theory of relativity, it would require an infinite amount of energy to propel an object at more than 186,000 miles per second.
However, Dr Gunter Nimtz and Dr Alfons Stahlhofen, of the University of Koblenz, say they may have breached a key tenet of that theory.
The pair say they have conducted an experiment in which microwave photons - energetic packets of light - travelled "instantaneously" between a pair of prisms that had been moved up to 3ft apart.
Being able to travel faster than the speed of light would lead to a wide variety of bizarre consequences.
For instance, an astronaut moving faster than it would theoretically arrive at a destination before leaving.
The scientists were investigating a phenomenon called quantum tunnelling, which allows sub-atomic particles to break apparently unbreakable laws.
Dr Nimtz told New Scientist magazine: "For the time being, this is the only violation of special relativity that I know of."
TOPICS: Germany; Technical
KEYWORDS: lightspeed; physics; speedoflight; yesterday
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The speed of light is a consequence of spacetime geometry. It's similar to the law that says no angle in a triangle may exceed 180 degrees. There's not a policeman out there enforcing the law, and oh, by the way, we've found a sneaky way to have a 181 degree angle in a triangle, but we didn't get caught. Either the experiment is erroneous (e.g. cold fusion), or the experiment is outside the scope of Relativity, which is possible since the experiment seem to be in the scope of quantum physics instead.
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:19:29 AM PDT
by
poiuqwer
To: poiuqwer
So the Germans broke it. Now they need to fix it.
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:20:09 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
To: poiuqwer
Yesterday’s thread is actually today’s thread sent through the Time Machine and the many excellent posts yet to be written have already appeared.
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:21:20 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
To: poiuqwer
The speed of light was broken long ago...by H. Rhodam-Clintoon-Dumbocrat NY...in regard to the time it takes her to open her mouth and a lie to come out.
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:21:30 AM PDT
by
in hoc signo vinces
("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
To: TommyDale
Please wait five seconds for my message to appear.
To: poiuqwer
To: poiuqwer
Did they transmit useful information faster than light in vacuo?
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:23:30 AM PDT
by
Fitzcarraldo
(Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
To: TommyDale
Here we go .......... again..........
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:23:52 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
To: poiuqwer
To: poiuqwer
Causality problems anyone?
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:28:32 AM PDT
by
Tallguy
(Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
To: Fitzcarraldo
Did they transmit useful information faster than light in vacuo?No.
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:29:28 AM PDT
by
Ichneumon
(Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
To: poiuqwer
Sounds like a variant of the old experiment whereby if an atom emits two photons travelling in opposite directions. inducing a change in direction of one photon seemingly instantaneously causes the same change on the other photon yet their rate of separation is 2x the speed of light.
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:29:32 AM PDT
by
fso301
To: Always Right
"Beam me up, Scottie!
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:30:02 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
To: poiuqwer
Wow. Try talking your way out of that speeding ticket!
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:31:31 AM PDT
by
Pablo64
(Ask me about my alpacas!)
To: Tallguy
rediculous ridiculous
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:33:21 AM PDT
by
Hoplite
To: Tallguy
Causality problems anyone?Don't be rediculous.
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:33:28 AM PDT
by
Hoplite
To: Nick Thimmesch
“I’m so fast I can flip the light switch and get into bed before the room gets dark”
To: Hoplite
You are distorting the time-space manifold. Cease postal inversion while the temporal infundibulum remains intact.
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:35:20 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
To: poiuqwer
Einstein lied
Photons died
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:36:45 AM PDT
by
Vinnie
(You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
To: in hoc signo vinces
Je$$ie Jack$son breaks the speed of light whenever a camera in in the neighborhood.
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posted on
08/17/2007 8:38:28 AM PDT
by
hophead
("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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