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1 posted on 08/14/2007 10:03:44 AM PDT by FreeManDC
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To: FreeManDC

? I thought it revealed the need to end illegal immigration....


2 posted on 08/14/2007 10:05:27 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson - POTUS 44)
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To: FreeManDC

Reveals the need to deport illegal aliens and defund sanctuary cities from federal funding is more like it.


3 posted on 08/14/2007 10:05:59 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: FreeManDC

The illegals didn’t have fathers? Wha....?


4 posted on 08/14/2007 10:06:29 AM PDT by ladtx ("You know you are getting old when everything either dries up or leaks." Will Rogers)
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Just wait until the psychologically damaged children raised and abused by flaming fags and dingbat fat lesbians grow up.

No doubt it will be blamed on everything BUT these children stripped of their right to be raised in a normal atmosphere as nature intended.


5 posted on 08/14/2007 10:09:45 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: FreeManDC; Owl_Eagle
So we are totally ignoring the illegal immigrant factor?
6 posted on 08/14/2007 10:11:02 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: FreeManDC
This tragedy has become a rohrschach test for people with an agenda. Personally, I think it's about illegal immigration. But I've seen it portrayed as a clarion call for School Choice, and now, for Father's Rights.

College-bound kids killed by an illegal immigrant. How is that a School Choice issue? How is it a Fatherhood issue?

7 posted on 08/14/2007 10:11:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
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To: FreeManDC

What if their fathers were present, but sucky?


8 posted on 08/14/2007 10:15:06 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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“the legacy of Great Society programs”
“powerful incentives have now become rooted in the system”

And what a legacy. Destroyed lives in the millions. If you reward irresponsible behavior, you get more of it. So what is the answer? More rewards!


16 posted on 08/14/2007 10:32:52 AM PDT by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: FreeManDC

It is very difficult to get a father justice in front of a judge who personally considers fatherhood unnecessary and disposable.

Fatherhood to a judge is a checkbook. Anything else is a burden on her/his docket.


25 posted on 08/14/2007 10:52:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I would say we need to enforce the existing immigration laws so illegals will stay home and kill people in their country. Has nothing to do with fathers. This guy is doing the dem side step and skirting the real issue. I don’t think he is impressing anyone who has a brain though.


29 posted on 08/14/2007 11:20:13 AM PDT by calex59
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"Enough is enough," thundered Newark mayor Cory Booker at Saturday's funeral of Dashon Harvey.

Newark politicians made their city a "sanctuary city" for the illegals, now they don't like the illegal activities they attracted.

Never saw that one coming!

30 posted on 08/14/2007 12:02:28 PM PDT by RJL
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What? What the hell does one have to do with the other? The whole thing is a non-sequiter. The lessons learned from this incident: Lock up violent criminals; Build a wall on the border; Deport illegal aliens; Allow citizens the basic human right of self-preservation through firearms. That’s all.


31 posted on 08/14/2007 12:14:06 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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this goes under the "DUH"! category....

so why aren't these men sticking around to help with the kids?....this writer can't possibly believe that these evil killers had dads that wanted to be "Leave it to Beaver" types....

fact is, children born into and raised in a nuclear family...father and mother....have the best chance of not only surviving, but thriving in society...and they in turn, will be able to care for their children.....

so marriage..

..so no sex before marriage..

..so SHAME placed on people that produce children without marriage, that live together, that divorce so easily.....

so marriage between a man and a woman.....

but all of these are so moralistic, and so right-wing...and so Christian...

and it would be just too much to ask people to not engage in sexual promiscuity.....and it would be too much to lower the violent and obscene nature of our "pop" music and our movies and our tv......

we wouldn't want people to actually have responsibility ....

32 posted on 08/14/2007 1:26:24 PM PDT by cherry
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The author of this piece must not have gotten the memo - the GOP is FOR these types of govt programs that destroy the family. See Mr. Gerson's article (who by the way was a close aide and speechwriter to Dubya).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16240579/site/newsweek/

Money quote:

"Campaigning on the size of government in 2008, while opponents talk about health care, education and poverty, will seem, and be, procedural, small-minded, cold and uninspired. The moral stakes are even higher. What does antigovernment conservatism offer to inner-city neighborhoods where violence is common and families are rare? Nothing. What achievement would it contribute to racial healing and the unity of our country? No achievement at all. Anti-government conservatism turns out to be a strange kind of idealism—an idealism that strangles mercy."

And folks wonder why the size of the Federal govt didn't shrink under complete GOP control! And to equate govt spending with "mercy?" What kind of crack are they smoking!?


34 posted on 08/14/2007 2:21:09 PM PDT by KantianBurke
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It would take a revolution to change things back to where they should be and there are too many people who make money off of broken families and too many people who love their free, no-strings-attached sex for that to happen.


36 posted on 08/14/2007 2:42:39 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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