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Newark Triple-Murder Reveals Need for Fathers
Renew America ^ | August 14, 2007 | Carey Roberts

Posted on 08/14/2007 10:03:39 AM PDT by FreeManDC

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1 posted on 08/14/2007 10:03:44 AM PDT by FreeManDC
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To: FreeManDC

? I thought it revealed the need to end illegal immigration....


2 posted on 08/14/2007 10:05:27 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson - POTUS 44)
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To: FreeManDC

Reveals the need to deport illegal aliens and defund sanctuary cities from federal funding is more like it.


3 posted on 08/14/2007 10:05:59 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: FreeManDC

The illegals didn’t have fathers? Wha....?


4 posted on 08/14/2007 10:06:29 AM PDT by ladtx ("You know you are getting old when everything either dries up or leaks." Will Rogers)
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To: FreeManDC

Just wait until the psychologically damaged children raised and abused by flaming fags and dingbat fat lesbians grow up.

No doubt it will be blamed on everything BUT these children stripped of their right to be raised in a normal atmosphere as nature intended.


5 posted on 08/14/2007 10:09:45 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: FreeManDC; Owl_Eagle
So we are totally ignoring the illegal immigrant factor?
6 posted on 08/14/2007 10:11:02 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: FreeManDC
This tragedy has become a rohrschach test for people with an agenda. Personally, I think it's about illegal immigration. But I've seen it portrayed as a clarion call for School Choice, and now, for Father's Rights.

College-bound kids killed by an illegal immigrant. How is that a School Choice issue? How is it a Fatherhood issue?

7 posted on 08/14/2007 10:11:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
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To: FreeManDC

What if their fathers were present, but sucky?


8 posted on 08/14/2007 10:15:06 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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It seems they are. Maybe they are fatherless illegal aliens, as well as Imam abused, "mufa’khathat" (“placing between the thighs”) victims, but are just put into the "fatherless" catagory, while ignoring all the other baggage these children from turd world countries bring, which obviously includes "the joy of killing".
9 posted on 08/14/2007 10:23:31 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: HitmanLV

True. A male can contribute his sperm but that alone doesn’t make him a responsible father. Sometimes this issue is talked about regarding absent fathers, but sometimes fathers are there but are irresponsible people themselves.


10 posted on 08/14/2007 10:26:01 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Nathan Zachary
They are really trying to play down the illegal status of the 3 time criminal who murdered these kids.
11 posted on 08/14/2007 10:27:19 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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College-bound kids killed by an illegal immigrant. How is that a School Choice issue? How is it a Fatherhood issue?

(1) The ringleader of the murderers was an illegal immigrant. It looks like at least two of his accomplices were US citizens.

(2) The punks who accompanied him had no father at home and no discipline. They were underage kids drinking malt liquor and sticking people up in the wee hours.

(3) The school system that they were theoretically students of encourages kids like this to drop out and fall between the cracks, despite the efforts of activists to promote school choice to provide needed discipline for criminal teens.

These murders happened because many things are very wrong in Newark - illegal immigration was only one factor.

12 posted on 08/14/2007 10:28:52 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: HitmanLV
"What if their fathers were present, but sucky?"

They would be receiving praise for bringing great honor to the familly for fighting for Allah's cause.

13 posted on 08/14/2007 10:29:02 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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I think they also play down what tribe has struggled with this problem since forever.....is there an inner city in America that doesn’t have the same problem as an entire continent somewhere across the Atlantic?


14 posted on 08/14/2007 10:30:54 AM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“This tragedy has become a rohrschach test for people with an agenda.” ... “College-bound kids killed by an illegal immigrant. How is that a School Choice issue? How is it a Fatherhood issue?”

Perfect response.


15 posted on 08/14/2007 10:31:47 AM PDT by Sterlis (My brain is full.....)
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To: FreeManDC

“the legacy of Great Society programs”
“powerful incentives have now become rooted in the system”

And what a legacy. Destroyed lives in the millions. If you reward irresponsible behavior, you get more of it. So what is the answer? More rewards!


16 posted on 08/14/2007 10:32:52 AM PDT by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: wideawake

But many people grow up without fathers, live in crime-ridden neighborhoods, and attend schools where gangs and drugs are present, yet still go on to make the right choices, become productive citizens, and successfully raise families of their own.

These four animals made the wrong choices. It’s really about free will. They freely decided to do wrong.


17 posted on 08/14/2007 10:34:14 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I agree - a father’s presence alone isn’t necessarily a good thing.


18 posted on 08/14/2007 10:38:28 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Why do you keep implying that the killers were Muslim?


19 posted on 08/14/2007 10:38:47 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Fred911
I think they also play down what tribe has struggled with this problem since forever.....is there an inner city in America that doesn’t have the same problem as an entire continent somewhere across the Atlantic?

The killers are reportedly from Central and South America.

20 posted on 08/14/2007 10:40:01 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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