Posted on 08/13/2007 2:16:05 PM PDT by knighthawk
Breda - The Dutch Roman Catholic bishop Tiny Muskens is urging the faithful of all religions to call God Allah in order to foster mutual understanding. The bishop of the city of Breda says God does not mind what he is called and points out that Allah is the Arabic word for God. The bishop, who is retiring in a few weeks, added he did not expect his ideas to find immediate acceptance. He expects it could take 100 or 200 years. Bishop Muskens has previously defied the Vatican by calling for the acceptance of married priests and the use of condoms against aids. He has also said that those who are poor may steal bread.
This guy should be hanged.
This guy should be hanged.
Defrock him.
Let us join together in wishing the Bishop a Happy Retirement!
The Dutch Roman Catholic bishop Tiny Muskens is urging the faithful of all religions to call God “Lemonjello” in order to foster mutual understanding and because he thinks it is a cool name.
I'm not so sure on this. The book of Joshua pretty much says the opposite.
Well, if you read the book it plainly says exactly what was going on. God had granted Israel a certain, and limited, amount of land. He told Israel to occupy it and to either cast out or destroy the occupants.
For example, God said in Joshua 13:6, “As for all the inhabitants of the mountain regions from Lebanon to Misrephoth aim, that is, all the Sidonians, **I myself will drive them out before the Israelites.** Be sure to allocate this land to Israel for an inheritance, as I have instructed you...”
This verse is very clear. God promises help in securing this specific land, but he wanted Israel to work for it.
Further, and more to my original point, Israel was not to embark on conquests of lands or peoples without specific instructions from God. Here the distinction between the God of the Bible and the deity of Islam could not be more stark.
Israel was a finite area, which was the land promised to Abraham. If anyone wanted to worship that God, he had to come to His temple in Jerusalem. Although Lev 19:33 demands that Israel fairly treat resident non-Israelites, if anyone no longer wanted to live by the social customs of the society, they were free to leave, to live “outside the camp.” There were, however, strict sanctions, even the death penalty, for people who remained in the society, yet who refused to obey the rules laid out in Torah.
Islam on the other hand, demands life-long obedience in a mindset so strict and controlling that it has its own name: the Ummah. It is a living, life-long prison of religion and ideology. It places the death penalty on anyone who leaves the faith, and imposes a duty on other believers to kill such a person no matter where they may find him. Islam imposes a duty to conquer other peoples and lands, to force them to accept Islam’s Three Choices: convert, submit or die.
Nowhere in the entire Bible, does that book’s deity ever present His beliefs as if they could be honestly and sincerely accepted under the threat of death, let alone that Israel should attempt to conquer the world, which Islam intends to do as soon as possible.
And pro-condom, too. Oh Allah Fubar, another Judas-priest, non-Catholic Catholic.
I read elsewhere that, at 71, he has asked to retire for health reasons. Good idea. I hope our German Shepherd Benedict will look into that. The Dutch bishop needs to get Out. Out. Out. Out. Out.
Everybody's known that for decades. Including, of course, the faithful, which is why Dutch Catholics are a vanishing breed.
It is also true that Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians used the word "Allah" to refer to the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacon, the Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ, for 700+ years before Mohammad was even born; and Arabic-speaking Christians still do. (For instance, the ancient Chaldean Church, and the Assyrian Church of the East.)
However, over the centuries the word has picked up the very strong connotation of whatever-bodiless-entity-it-is-that-Mohammad-worshipped, and therefore the bishops' suggestion is--- in my opinion --- fundamentally fubar.
Rahab did just that, accepted the Hebrew God under the threat of death (both for her and her family) - all again in the book of Joshua. Similar, but not exactly the same, for the Gibeonites.
I cannot post what I think of this.
ping
Moon god; god of death.
Though I think Romney should stick to himself rather than cast about for political role models. Reagan never did anything about those 250 or so service people in Beirut. Maybe Romney'd like to grab onto that too.
Sorry. #96, wrong thread. ‘Not sure how that happened.
Oh yeah.. You are right to cry for stopping Islam. It is spreading very fast. Millions in Europe are converting to Islam.
It is perhaps time though that we write off Europe and consider defending ourselves. Much of Europe is beyond the point of being saved anyway.
Call Him by His name Jehovah then.
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