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1998 was Colder than 1934...in 2002? (GISS Data Falsehood Before the Recent Scandal? FR EXCLUSIVE)
Web Archive and GISS ^ | 08/12/2007 | Ultra Sonic 007

Posted on 08/12/2007 10:38:32 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

I've done some digging into the recent scandal over how GISS has quietly changed its data to reflect the fact that 1998 is no longer the warmest year on American record.

However, thanks to the resources of the Wayback Machine of WebArchive, I've discovered that the 1998 data has not been quite so high for a while.

This is the Wayback Machine archive of GISS's data page, home to the climate data that's been the subject of the recent controversy.

Let's recall that the newly reevaluted figures are as follows:

Contiguous 48 U.S. Surface Air Temperature Anomaly (C)
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year    Annual_Mean  5-year_Mean
---------------------------------
 1880      -.26      *  
 1881       .29      *  
 1882       .07      -.24
 1883      -.68      -.30
 1884      -.63      -.41
 1885      -.54      -.46
 1886      -.28      -.39
 1887      -.17      -.21
 1888      -.32      -.06
 1889       .28      -.04
 1890       .20      -.11
 1891      -.20      -.19
 1892      -.51      -.21
 1893      -.72      -.38
 1894       .17      -.30
 1895      -.66      -.22
 1896       .19      -.10
 1897      -.08      -.22
 1898      -.15       .03
 1899      -.41       .00
 1900       .57      -.01
 1901       .05      -.11
 1902      -.13      -.13
 1903      -.65      -.34
 1904      -.48      -.35
 1905      -.47      -.37
 1906      -.02      -.21
 1907      -.24      -.17
 1908       .14      -.02
 1909      -.27       .02
 1910       .28      -.11
 1911       .17      -.15
 1912      -.88      -.08
 1913      -.03      -.16
 1914       .09      -.29
 1915      -.15      -.33
 1916      -.50      -.31
 1917     -1.06      -.35
 1918       .06      -.40
 1919      -.10      -.07
 1920      -.41       .17
 1921      1.15       .15
 1922       .18       .02
 1923      -.07       .17
 1924      -.74      -.05
 1925       .36      -.05
 1926       .04      -.02
 1927       .15       .01
 1928       .07      -.03
 1929      -.58       .18
 1930       .16       .15
 1931      1.08       .27
 1932       .00       .63
 1933       .68       .61
 1934      1.25       .44
 1935       .04       .41
 1936       .21       .45
 1937      -.13       .37
 1938       .86       .36
 1939       .85       .45
 1940       .03       .49
 1941       .61       .35
 1942       .09       .21
 1943       .17       .19
 1944       .14       .22
 1945      -.03       .22
 1946       .72       .17
 1947       .10       .18
 1948      -.08       .13
 1949       .20      -.10
 1950      -.28      -.05
 1951      -.42       .14
 1952       .32       .27
 1953       .90       .32
 1954       .85       .47
 1955      -.03       .43
 1956       .29       .26
 1957       .14       .13
 1958       .06       .08
 1959       .17       .02
 1960      -.24      -.01
 1961      -.02       .02
 1962      -.02      -.03
 1963       .19      -.01
 1964      -.07      -.05
 1965      -.11      -.07
 1966      -.24      -.16
 1967      -.10      -.19
 1968      -.28      -.19
 1969      -.23      -.16
 1970      -.11      -.21
 1971      -.10      -.11
 1972      -.35      -.03
 1973       .24      -.05
 1974       .15      -.08
 1975      -.20       .06
 1976      -.25      -.09
 1977       .37      -.24
 1978      -.52      -.16
 1979      -.60       .02
 1980       .22      -.12
 1981       .64      -.02
 1982      -.36       .10
 1983      -.01      -.03
 1984       .00      -.01
 1985      -.42       .22
 1986       .73       .29
 1987       .83       .25
 1988       .32       .51
 1989      -.19       .50
 1990       .87       .40
 1991       .69       .25
 1992       .30       .38
 1993      -.44       .27
 1994       .46       .10
 1995       .34       .05
 1996      -.17       .38
 1997       .03       .47
 1998      1.23       .51
 1999       .93       .69
 2000       .52       .79
 2001       .76       .65
 2002       .53       .55
 2003       .50       .58
 2004       .44       .66
 2005       .69       * 
 2006      1.13       * 
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As you can see, 1998's temperature variation is smaller than 1934's, meaning the the temperature anamoly in 1934 was greater than 1998's: and since they're both compared to the same relative mean (1951-1980, according to the graphs page of GISTEMP of GISS.), then 1934's recorded temperature is greater than 1998's. With this in mind, you can see that 1921 is third at 1.15, with 2006 in 4th at 1.13, with 1931 at fifth at 1.08.

Now, we've been hearing that the data has shown that 1998 was previously higher. Most sources I've read, such as Global Warming Hoax have pointed out that the figures before the reevaluation pointed 1998 to be 1.24, with 1934 at 1.23.

But the data pulled from the Wayback Machine Web Archives paints a different picture. Recall that these are archived pages. They cannot reflect the reevaluated figures because they are separated from GISS. They cannot be altered; they are pictures, snapshots of a particular point in time. With that in mind, keep on reading.

Let's go back to September 01, 2006. Amidst the menagerie of broken images, you can click on the DATA & IMAGES toolbar up top. Then go to GISS Surface Air Temperature Analysis. Now Graphs. Scroll down Annual Mean Temperature Change in the United States and click on tabular data. What do we get?

Contiguous 48 U.S. Surface Air Temperature Anomaly (C)
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year    Annual_Mean  5-year_Mean
---------------------------------
 1880      -.41       .13
 1881       .15      -.14
 1882      -.04      -.34
 1883      -.70      -.36
 1884      -.73      -.44
 1885      -.50      -.48
 1886      -.25      -.39
 1887      -.21      -.19
 1888      -.28      -.05
 1889       .28      -.04
 1890       .23      -.10
 1891      -.24      -.17
 1892      -.47      -.21
 1893      -.66      -.39
 1894       .11      -.31
 1895      -.69      -.24
 1896       .17      -.14
 1897      -.12      -.25
 1898      -.17       .00
 1899      -.43      -.02
 1900       .54      -.01
 1901       .07      -.11
 1902      -.09      -.11
 1903      -.65      -.31
 1904      -.41      -.34
 1905      -.47      -.37
 1906      -.06      -.21
 1907      -.22      -.18
 1908       .11      -.02
 1909      -.25       .01
 1910       .31      -.12
 1911       .11      -.17
 1912      -.89      -.11
 1913      -.13      -.21
 1914       .03      -.33
 1915      -.16      -.36
 1916      -.51      -.32
 1917     -1.00      -.36
 1918       .02      -.42
 1919      -.15      -.10
 1920      -.45       .12
 1921      1.08       .10
 1922       .11      -.01
 1923      -.09       .15
 1924      -.70      -.05
 1925       .38      -.04
 1926       .04      -.01
 1927       .16       .02
 1928       .05      -.03
 1929      -.54       .16
 1930       .11       .12
 1931      1.00       .24
 1932      -.01       .60
 1933       .66       .58
 1934      1.24       .42
 1935       .05       .40
 1936       .18       .43
 1937      -.12       .34
 1938       .78       .34
 1939       .80       .41
 1940       .04       .45
 1941       .54       .32
 1942       .07       .18
 1943       .16       .17
 1944       .09       .20
 1945      -.01       .20
 1946       .67       .15
 1947       .09       .17
 1948      -.08       .13
 1949       .18      -.08
 1950      -.23      -.04
 1951      -.38       .15
 1952       .30       .28
 1953       .88       .31
 1954       .82       .44
 1955      -.05       .41
 1956       .28       .25
 1957       .14       .12
 1958       .07       .09
 1959       .16       .03
 1960      -.22       .00
 1961       .00       .02
 1962      -.02      -.03
 1963       .19       .00
 1964      -.08      -.05
 1965      -.12      -.07
 1966      -.24      -.16
 1967      -.10      -.19
 1968      -.27      -.19
 1969      -.23      -.16
 1970      -.12      -.22
 1971      -.10      -.11
 1972      -.36      -.04
 1973       .25      -.05
 1974       .15      -.08
 1975      -.20       .07
 1976      -.23      -.09
 1977       .36      -.23
 1978      -.51      -.15
 1979      -.58       .03
 1980       .22      -.12
 1981       .65      -.01
 1982      -.36       .10
 1983       .01      -.02
 1984       .01      -.01
 1985      -.41       .23
 1986       .73       .30
 1987       .84       .26
 1988       .33       .52
 1989      -.17       .51
 1990       .88       .41
 1991       .69       .26
 1992       .31       .38
 1993      -.43       .28
 1994       .47       .10
 1995       .35       .05
 1996      -.18       .38
 1997       .05       .48
 1998      1.24       .54
 1999       .94       .55
 2000       .65       .88
 2001       .89       .76
 2002       .67       .68
 2003       .65       .75
 2004       .54         *
 2005       .99         *
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Now we see that 1998 and 1934 are tied at 1.24. Not reflective of the truth, but different than the spouted line that 1998 was hotter than 1934. 1921 and 1931 are much colder in this snapshot; 1.08 and 1.00 respectively. You'll notice that one big jump is 2005: at .99, its reevaluated figure of .69 is a tremendous fall.

Things get odder as we go further back in time, however. August 03, 2004. Follow the same path I described above to the data for U.S. temperature, up to 2003. Here's where things get REALLY interesting.

Contiguous 48 U.S. Surface Air Temperature Anomaly (C)
------------------------------------------------------
year    Annual_Mean  5-year_Mean
---------------------------------
1880        -.41         .13
1881         .15        -.14
1882        -.04        -.34
1883        -.70        -.36
1884        -.73        -.44
1885        -.50        -.48
1886        -.25        -.39
1887        -.21        -.19
1888        -.28        -.05
1889         .28        -.04
1890         .23        -.10
1891        -.24        -.17
1892        -.47        -.21
1893        -.66        -.39
1894         .11        -.31
1895        -.69        -.24
1896         .17        -.14
1897        -.12        -.25
1898        -.17         .00
1899        -.43        -.02
1900         .54        -.01
1901         .07        -.11
1902        -.09        -.11
1903        -.65        -.31
1904        -.41        -.34
1905        -.47        -.37
1906        -.06        -.21
1907        -.22        -.18
1908         .11        -.02
1909        -.25         .01
1910         .31        -.12
1911         .11        -.17
1912        -.89        -.11
1913        -.13        -.21
1914         .03        -.33
1915        -.16        -.36
1916        -.51        -.32
1917       -1.00        -.36
1918         .02        -.42
1919        -.15        -.10
1920        -.45         .12
1921        1.08         .10
1922         .11        -.01
1923        -.09         .15
1924        -.70        -.05
1925         .38        -.04
1926         .04        -.01
1927         .16         .02
1928         .05        -.03
1929        -.54         .16
1930         .11         .12
1931        1.00         .24
1932        -.01         .60
1933         .66         .58
1934        1.24         .42
1935         .05         .40
1936         .18         .43
1937        -.12         .34
1938         .78         .34
1939         .80         .41
1940         .04         .45
1941         .54         .32
1942         .07         .18
1943         .16         .17
1944         .09         .20
1945        -.01         .20
1946         .67         .15
1947         .09         .17
1948        -.08         .13
1949         .18        -.08
1950        -.23        -.04
1951        -.38         .15
1952         .30         .28
1953         .88         .31
1954         .82         .44
1955        -.05         .41
1956         .28         .25
1957         .14         .12
1958         .07         .09
1959         .16         .03
1960        -.22         .00
1961         .00         .03
1962         .00        -.03
1963         .19        -.01
1964        -.10        -.05
1965        -.13        -.07
1966        -.22        -.17
1967        -.08        -.19
1968        -.30        -.19
1969        -.21        -.17
1970        -.13        -.22
1971        -.11        -.11
1972        -.32        -.03
1973         .23        -.05
1974         .18        -.08
1975        -.22         .05
1976        -.26        -.09
1977         .35        -.24
1978        -.49        -.15
1979        -.58         .03
1980         .23        -.11
1981         .64        -.02
1982        -.35         .10
1983        -.03        -.03
1984         .02        -.01
1985        -.40         .21
1986         .71         .28
1987         .76         .25
1988         .32         .50
1989        -.15         .49
1990         .85         .40
1991         .65         .25
1992         .30         .38
1993        -.40         .28
1994         .48         .12
1995         .36         .07
1996        -.14         .39
1997         .05         .49
1998        1.20         .54
1999         .95         .75
2000         .65         .83
2001         .89         .68
2002         .45           *
2003         .48           *
---------------------------------

Hold up. 1998 is now at 1.20. This puts it BEHIND 1934 as the hottest year on record, which is still at 1.24. As a matter of fact, in this archived page, 2002 and 2003 (.45, and .48 respectively) are all COLDER than the reevaluated figures show (.53, and .59 respectively). As another oddity, 1999 and 2001 are both hotter in the archived figures than they are in reevaluated data(compare .95 to .93 for 1999, and .89 to .76 for 2001). More and more changes abound, hotter and colder all around. What gives?

The most glowing difference nonetheless remains the change in data for 1998. It is colder than 1934.

And as we go back to the GISS page as archived on October 16, 2002, we see that the tabular data for U.S. temperatures goes only as far as 1999. Let's compare again.

Contiguous 48 U.S. Surface Air Temperature Anomaly (C)
------------------------------------------------------
year    Annual_Mean  5-year_Mean
---------------------------------
1880        -.41         .13
1881         .15        -.14
1882        -.04        -.34
1883        -.70        -.36
1884        -.73        -.44
1885        -.50        -.48
1886        -.25        -.39
1887        -.21        -.19
1888        -.28        -.05
1889         .28        -.04
1890         .23        -.10
1891        -.24        -.17
1892        -.47        -.21
1893        -.66        -.39
1894         .11        -.31
1895        -.69        -.24
1896         .17        -.14
1897        -.12        -.25
1898        -.17         .00
1899        -.43        -.02
1900         .54        -.01
1901         .07        -.11
1902        -.09        -.11
1903        -.65        -.31
1904        -.41        -.34
1905        -.47        -.37
1906        -.06        -.21
1907        -.22        -.18
1908         .11        -.02
1909        -.25         .01
1910         .31        -.12
1911         .11        -.17
1912        -.89        -.11
1913        -.13        -.21
1914         .03        -.33
1915        -.16        -.36
1916        -.51        -.32
1917       -1.00        -.36
1918         .02        -.42
1919        -.15        -.10
1920        -.45         .12
1921        1.08         .10
1922         .11        -.01
1923        -.09         .15
1924        -.70        -.05
1925         .38        -.04
1926         .04        -.01
1927         .16         .02
1928         .05        -.03
1929        -.54         .16
1930         .11         .12
1931        1.00         .24
1932        -.01         .60
1933         .66         .58
1934        1.24         .42
1935         .05         .40
1936         .18         .43
1937        -.12         .34
1938         .78         .34
1939         .80         .41
1940         .04         .45
1941         .54         .32
1942         .07         .18
1943         .16         .17
1944         .09         .20
1945        -.01         .20
1946         .67         .15
1947         .09         .17
1948        -.08         .13
1949         .18        -.08
1950        -.23        -.04
1951        -.38         .15
1952         .30         .28
1953         .88         .31
1954         .82         .44
1955        -.05         .41
1956         .28         .25
1957         .14         .12
1958         .07         .09
1959         .16         .03
1960        -.22         .00
1961         .00         .03
1962         .00        -.03
1963         .19        -.01
1964        -.10        -.05
1965        -.13        -.07
1966        -.22        -.17
1967        -.08        -.19
1968        -.30        -.19
1969        -.21        -.17
1970        -.13        -.22
1971        -.11        -.11
1972        -.32        -.03
1973         .23        -.05
1974         .18        -.08
1975        -.22         .05
1976        -.26        -.09
1977         .35        -.24
1978        -.49        -.15
1979        -.58         .03
1980         .23        -.11
1981         .64        -.02
1982        -.35         .10
1983        -.03        -.03
1984         .02        -.01
1985        -.40         .21
1986         .71         .28
1987         .76         .25
1988         .32         .50
1989        -.15         .49
1990         .85         .40
1991         .65         .25
1992         .30         .38
1993        -.40         .28
1994         .48         .12
1995         .36         .07
1996        -.14         .39
1997         .05         .49
1998        1.20           *
1999         .95           *
---------------------------------

1998 remains at 1.20. 1934 is still the hottest year on record in America...and all before this latest hubbub over altered data.

So what does this say?

Considering James Hansen's refusal to reveal the algorithms used to originally calculate the faulty data, this speaks of not just an effort to hide NASA/GISS's screw up (especially considering the media silence on this), but of a blatant, outright falsehood that's been perpetrated over the last several years.

1998, until now, was claimed to be the hottest year on record. That claim was made using faulty data. And yet the faulty data that this claim was made on says something different altogether!

It says a lot about the character of the pushers of manmade global warming when both the truth (the reevaluated data) and the lie (the archived data) both say that they're wrong. Yikes.


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For your consumption, fellow FReepers. Spread the word.

Hope the mods don't mind that this is in Front Page, but this is big.

1 posted on 08/12/2007 10:38:41 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: DaveLoneRanger; ImaGraftedBranch; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Paperdoll; pissant; Calpernia

Global warming ping.

A new scandal?


2 posted on 08/12/2007 10:40:54 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Hope the mods don't mind that this is in Front Page, but this is big.

Not just big, it's HUGH!

3 posted on 08/12/2007 10:41:38 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: JRios1968
Are you series?

Am I logged on?

4 posted on 08/12/2007 10:43:00 AM PDT by MrEdd (Keeping my foot on the necks of liberals since 1980.)
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To: MrEdd; Responsibility2nd

It’s not just hugh and series, it’s figantice! :O


5 posted on 08/12/2007 10:44:28 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

HA....the glo warmers have been exposed...their agenda is NO more...it’s dying an ugly death...HA


6 posted on 08/12/2007 10:45:11 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Government lied? Noooo, really.


7 posted on 08/12/2007 10:45:21 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: MrEdd

8 posted on 08/12/2007 10:45:34 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Basic References:

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:


9 posted on 08/12/2007 10:50:05 AM PDT by sourcery (fRed Dawn: Wednesday, 5 November 2008!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Nice to see a sabermatrician with a little time on your hands.

If the data showed the we are continually getting warmer, then we need to look at the cycle. If the data shows that we are getting colder then we look at the data from a different direction.

This is how the original discoveries of climate cycles were discovered, and why climatologists can look back over many years and do basic research.

When the data is falsified in any area then the conclusions are questioned. Look at human genetics for what happens to scientists that “push” data to prove a point.

There is no realistic peer review of global warming (or cooling) because the discipline has become a religion and the reviewers are all koolaid drinkers.

Keep up the good work and don’t stop publishing. One day the Wayback Machine may be mysteriously edited and these figures will not be there. Shades of Orwell.

10 posted on 08/12/2007 10:50:38 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Do you really trust temperature data from more that 50 years ago to two decimal places???

Then accounting for statistical error, I don’t put much faith in these data at all.


11 posted on 08/12/2007 10:53:23 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If Roger Maris got an asterisk next to his name, Bonds should get a syringe)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Tread lightly with this. I’m not sure what process they’re using since they won’t tell anyone, but this might be explainable.


12 posted on 08/12/2007 10:53:34 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It will be interesting to hear GISS’s explanation.


13 posted on 08/12/2007 10:54:01 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

You have too much time on your hands.


14 posted on 08/12/2007 10:54:28 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Someone e-mail this to Al Gore


15 posted on 08/12/2007 10:55:02 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (From my fist to Harry Reid's face)
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To: Mikey_1962; bahblahbah

That’s precisely the point.

This data is used to determine public policy that affects EVERYONE: you, me, our fellow FReepers, and other American citizens.

If the data’s faulty, and it’s being used to perpetuate a contradictory policy anyway, it needs to be none.

Still, as BBB pointed out, it might be explainable; if so, then there we go.


16 posted on 08/12/2007 10:55:44 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Talk about an Inconvenient Truth!
17 posted on 08/12/2007 10:55:57 AM PDT by hometoroost (TSA = Thousands Standing Around)
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To: Kirkwood

I just got done with finals, and this whole recent scandal with GISS triggered my curiosity.


18 posted on 08/12/2007 10:57:21 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Beowulf

ping


19 posted on 08/12/2007 10:58:40 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: JRios1968

Its HUGH and SERIES!!!

Really it is!

Al Gore and his cronies are out for MONEY, they have to HEAT those multi-million dollar mansions you know!!!


20 posted on 08/12/2007 10:58:57 AM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha (Smoke clears and Fred Thompson is President))
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