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Global warming will step up after 2009: scientists
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | 2007 Aug 09 | Deborah Zabarenko

Posted on 08/09/2007 1:52:23 PM PDT by Brujo

Global warming is forecast to set in with a vengeance after 2009, with at least half of the five following years expected to be hotter than 1998, the warmest year on record, scientists reported on Thursday.

Climate experts have long predicted a general warming trend over the 21st century spurred by the greenhouse effect, but this new study gets more specific about what is likely to happen in the decade that started in 2005.

To make this kind of prediction, researchers at Britain's Met Office -- which deals with meteorology -- made a computer model that takes into account such natural phenomena as the El Nino pattern in the Pacific Ocean and other fluctuations in ocean circulation and heat content.

A forecast of the next decade is particularly useful, because climate could be dominated over this period by these natural changes, rather than human-caused global warming, study author Douglas Smith said by telephone.

In research published in the journal Science, Smith and his colleagues predicted that the next three or four years would show little warming despite an overall forecast that saw warming over the decade.

"There is ... particular interest in the coming decade, which represents a key planning horizon for infrastructure upgrades, insurance, energy policy and business development," Smith and his co-authors noted.

The real heat will start after 2009, they said.

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To: Brujo
A forecast of the next decade is particularly useful, because climate could be dominated over this period by these natural changes, rather than human-caused global warming, study author Douglas Smith said by telephone

Actually, this model apparently uses, as causation factors, non-CO2 factors. Of course, the warmingists will blame CO2.

61 posted on 08/09/2007 3:03:10 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: P-40
made a computer model that takes into account such natural phenomena as the El Nino

As soon as I read the words "computer model", my eyes glazed over and I was overcome with ennui.

So far, the computer models have been something to laugh about.

If I were guessing, I'd guess the "model" still shows 1998 to be the hottest year on record, rather than the actual hottest year, 1934.

62 posted on 08/09/2007 3:07:07 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Brujo

1998 was not the warmest year on record.


63 posted on 08/09/2007 3:29:16 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Brujo

The Global Warming Con Men have chosen 2009 because it is far enough in the future to cushion their current missteps and to allow for the very crucial time needed for them to railroad the public — through elected officials and the royal icons of Hollywood — into opening it’s wallet for the biggest money-grab in history.


64 posted on 08/09/2007 3:36:04 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: milwguy
These ‘”scientists” obviously haven’t gotten the news that 1998 was NOT the hottest on record. NASA has just revised their figures due to a person pointing out they madea mistake in their calculations. Now 1934 is officially the hottest on record and FOUR of the TEN hottest years were in the 30’s

This change was for the United States only, NOT the global temperature data. The effect on the global temperature data was negligible, and 1998 remains the hottest year, globally, ever observed.

65 posted on 08/09/2007 3:52:29 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: Brujo

I’m not the scietific kind-of-guy...but I’ve noticed this year we’ve had “normal” weather that we had 10 years ago. The last few years we’ve had extremely hot weather starting in April lasting through the summer. This year it has been moderate and the only real hot weather started in August.

I’m looking for snow in the Sand Hills of North Carolina this year.


66 posted on 08/09/2007 4:25:33 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: LiteKeeper

We are doomed... DOOMED... the weather is not static. The weather is NOT STATIC!!!!! Arrggghhhhh!!!!

Sorry, I lost my mind for a minute.


67 posted on 08/09/2007 5:02:39 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: TornadoAlley3

Clicking on that link was the last place I thought I would see a reputable research banner (on top). PCR is very elusive but a very good panel to be a member of. Thanks!


68 posted on 08/09/2007 7:04:34 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Brujo; 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; ...
Thanks Brujo.
 
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69 posted on 08/09/2007 10:06:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 9, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: P-40; narby

I was there in that year too. I thought I was living in Hell!


70 posted on 08/09/2007 10:39:22 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: Brujo

Yep, the 1998 bit is a terradiddle.


71 posted on 08/09/2007 10:40:57 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Little Pig

OH, like Y2K? LOL


72 posted on 08/09/2007 10:41:53 PM PDT by tioga
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To: cogitator
and 1998 remains the hottest year, globally, ever observed.

Well, at least during the time period they are measuring. My house is at 620 feet above sea level...but I still have to drill through a lot of dead sea creatures to put in a well. :)
73 posted on 08/10/2007 5:35:32 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: milwguy; SunkenCiv; blam; All

If 1934 was the hottest on record and 4 of the 10 hottest yearswere in the 30’s, then we may have to plan for big trouble even if “global warming” is not a cause. There is the average 11 year sunspot cycle which causes climate variation. Then there is the approximate 22 year cycle which is stronger. There is probably an even more extreme 88 year cycle.

So what does all this indicate for our possible future. For one, after 2009 we should be hitting one of the 11 year cycle peaks with attendant climate problems. If you add 88 to 1934, you get 2022. Thus the 2020’s could be a reprise of those terrible dust bowl years. Plan ahead. Tear up your lawns and plant cactus, whereever you live.


74 posted on 08/10/2007 7:57:21 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Brujo
The real heat will start after 2009

Is that when the islamists set fire to Saudi oilfields and the nukes start flying?

75 posted on 08/10/2007 8:02:37 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: finnman69

Media Rediscovers Homelessness

Do you have any statistics on the actual rates of homelessness during those years, and several years after the end of the Clinton administration. If democrats are actually more concerned with homelessness, then a couple of years after Clinton came into office there should have been a decrease. On the other hand, a Republican Congress, and/or the welfare reform push could have had some influence. Dates for these influences and the actual statistics would be very interesting to see.


76 posted on 08/10/2007 8:05:46 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
Relevant to your post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1879260/posts
77 posted on 08/10/2007 8:27:15 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: gleeaikin

:’)


78 posted on 08/10/2007 10:45:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 9, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 1rudeboy
“I’ll Gladly Pay You Tomorrow for a Hamburger Today”

Was it Wimpy that said that. You know, of Popeye fame?

79 posted on 08/10/2007 10:47:48 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Brujo
1998, the warmest year on record

False.

A trained monkey could be a journalist.

80 posted on 08/10/2007 10:54:24 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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