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The Final Face-Off ... ( looks like it's going to be Hillary vs. Rudy)
American Spectator ^ | 8/9/2007 | R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr.

Posted on 08/09/2007 4:37:27 AM PDT by IrishMike

The infallible Washington Times reports that up for sale is one of the most famous scenes of infantilism in the 20th century, "Woodstock." Actually, what is on the block is the late Max Yasgur's New York farm, 38 acres of which were used for the 1969 Woodstock music festival that hagiographers for the "1960s Generation" have ever since boomed as a pivotal event in American history. Such rock singers as Jimi Hendrix and Richie Havens got together before a stupefied crowd of some 500,000 eternal children to sing of peace, and freedom, and mind-numbing substances, even the most feeble of which have now been shown to be extremely deleterious to intellect and spirit. Better it would be to inhale Marlboros than to fool with the proscribed substances that eventually killed or demented many of the singers and attendees in that famous field.

As for "peace and freedom," wars have continued and the specific war that the troubadours of Woodstock had in mind ended only when our Democratic-controlled Congress broke an American pledge to send support to embattled South Vietnamese forces. The North Vietnamese communists beat them. .... Drunk and disorderly rockers never pacified any region I know of, and many have lived irritable and belligerent lives, leaving children and other loved ones in a hell of a mess. ........... As I have been noting of late, the aging 1960s generation -- divided as it has always been by its left-wing and right-wing -- is now facing its political swan song. The Republicans and the Democrats will probably nominate members of this generation to battle in 2008 one more time. Now the face-off is on again, probably with Hillary opposing Rudy.

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To: Mr. Jeeves
Rudy might get 5% fewer votes in the South than a more socially conservative candidate. Meaning he will win those states over Hillary 60-40 instead of 65-35.

Um, five percent less of the vote in Florida swings that state to Hillary. The same is true in states like Iowa, Colorado and Missouri.

And, there isn't any evidence that RINO Rudy can win one blue state.

81 posted on 08/14/2007 11:45:53 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I’ll vote for whoever is running against Hillary, guaranteed.


82 posted on 08/14/2007 11:47:04 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: IrishMike
The Republicans and the Democrats will probably nominate members of this generation to battle in 2008 one more time. Now the face-off is on again, probably with Hillary opposing Rudy

There is no lesser of evils there. This may be the first Presidntial Election I do not vote in since 1980.

83 posted on 08/14/2007 11:50:25 AM PDT by L,TOWM ("Protesting Clinton's wars was'nt cool..." - Jeneane Garafolo, 2003)
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To: IrishMike

I’m not a Rudy hater. In fact for a time I supported him. If he ran against Hillary I honestly believe he would likely win...

HOWEVER, the man is simply too far to the left, and has too much baggage, to pick up the nomination.


84 posted on 08/14/2007 11:50:31 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Ron Paul: the candidate of cowardice and appeasement.)
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To: IrishMike

You must choose between Left and Lefter.


85 posted on 08/14/2007 11:52:14 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: IrishMike

I’m not pro-Rudy, but I am anti the Witch.


86 posted on 08/14/2007 11:54:09 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("I mean, he's gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week." - Romney on B. Hussein Obama)
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To: jch10
I will never, ever surrender to the democrats!!

You surrender to liberals when you put a RINO in office. There is nothing worse than when a conservative supports a liberal Republican that works with Democrats to enact a liberal agenda.

And, just think of the damage a liberal Republican will do in realigning Congress. The party in the White House almost always loses seats. With a social liberal like Giuliani in the White House, conservative, blue-dog Democrats will easily be able to retake dozens of seats in the South.

87 posted on 08/14/2007 11:54:38 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: TitansAFC
And I will not surrender the GOP to Rudy - never, ever! Not even if he wins the nomination and I have to put Hillary signs in my yard.

AMEN TO THAT! I, too, will do everything in my power to assure the Republican party is not taken over by RINO/liberal Republicans. I would rather endure four years of Hillary and work to nominate a conservative candidate in 2012.

88 posted on 08/14/2007 11:59:04 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: rintense
Rudy will not be the GOP nominee. You can bank on it.

I hope you're right.

I don't think you are.

Look at the top 10 states by population:

Who will do better than Rudy for the GOP nomination in PA, NY, CA, NJ, MI, IL and FL?

He might even win a majority of delegates in OH. GA and TX will be extremely difficult.

Thompson is the only man who might beat him. If he does it will be by an extremely narrow margin.

89 posted on 08/14/2007 12:04:29 PM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: IrishMike
Fred Thompson ... WTF ????
Are you in or what ?

Is he a foot dragger on everything? People are already dropping OUT of the race (Tommy Thompson) and Fred isn't even in it yet.

90 posted on 08/14/2007 12:13:06 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (The Morlocks are above-ground now, but nobody seems to care.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

“You surrender to liberals when you put a RINO in office. There is nothing worse than when a conservative supports a liberal Republican...”

Not true! RINOS do act like conservative Republicans sometimes. Libs never do! I’ll take my chances with an R but never a D. Look where pressure got us on the amnesty deal.

Those who sit out the election concede the next four years. I don’t consider myself a quitter and will hold Rudy’s feet, or whomever the Republicans elect, to the fire.


91 posted on 08/14/2007 12:28:16 PM PDT by jch10
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To: jch10
RINOS do act like conservative Republicans sometimes.?

But, they act like liberals more often. When they do, there is no stopping a liberal agenda pushed through by a Republican with the help of Democrats.

The amnesty bill was only halted because so many Democrats opposed the legislation, BTW.

92 posted on 08/14/2007 12:32:56 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: jch10

“I will vote for the Republican nominee. I will not stay home nor write in a name.

I will never, ever surrender to the democrats!!”

Amen and Amen!!!


93 posted on 08/14/2007 12:42:51 PM PDT by RooRoobird20
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To: Ol' Sparky
It's utter nonsense to claim that a Reagan conservative can't win the Presidency.

Who said that? I'm saying even Reagan was the lesser of two evils.

94 posted on 08/14/2007 7:19:15 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Chunga

Do you honestly think that *hillary* has a better chace in TX than Rudy? Or Obama?! C’mon.


95 posted on 08/14/2007 7:24:37 PM PDT by Meerkat
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To: IrishMike

Only in Bob Tyrell and Rupert Murdoch’s wet dreams.


96 posted on 08/14/2007 7:26:31 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: jch10; IrishMike
I will vote for the Republican nominee. I will not stay home nor write in a name.

I will never, ever surrender to the democrats!!

Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary isn't a winning strategy... I'll vote for Bullwinkle instead...








97 posted on 08/14/2007 7:42:24 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: rintense

“Right now. Rudy will not be the GOP nominee. You can bank on it.”

I really don’t see how Rudy is going to be nominated either. The only reason could be is because the conservative vote is split between several candidates. The only reason Rudy is doing good is because he is the only one like himself. Personally, I think it would be tragic if he made the nomination. I mean, come on, we are in a fight against Hildabeast, it’s going to be a let down to set a man with a troubled personal life and failed marriages against her. It will take all the fun out of it, I want to see a good fight between two opposites, it will be no fun watching a fight between the lesser of two evils.


98 posted on 08/14/2007 7:59:52 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“Rudy haters”?

The man is pro-abortion, has cheated on his wives (note, I said wives) and refuses to say publically that he believes in God, and you think the issue is people who are Rudy HATERS? That’s just too simplistic and it misses the whole point. The bottom line, I want to see a real fight between two opposites, not a fight between the lesser of two evils.


99 posted on 08/14/2007 8:03:02 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: IrishMike

If Giuliani is the nominee, the Democrats will sweep, and the GOP will be out of power for a generation or more.


100 posted on 08/14/2007 8:05:54 PM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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