Posted on 08/06/2007 12:56:08 PM PDT by Philistone
This is the third time I've run across this argument on some moonbat chat board in the last few weeks:
The most likely outcome of World War I sans our misguided participation would have been a stalemate with both sides exhausted from 5 years of trench warfare. The rise of Hitler and Mussolini probably would have been precluded. Thus there never would have been a second world war.
Playing with counterfactuals is always pointless as no logical conclusion can ever be drawn from them (since, by definition, one of the premises is false).
Despite the lack of historical or even philisophical rationale, these arguments keep popping up. Is this the way American History is being taught these days?
“Thus there never would have been a second world war.”
Apparently, they’ve never heard of Japan.
‘Is this the way American History is being taught these days?’
Yep, it is.
Keep in mind there is a huge percentage of teachers that are ‘liberal’ and then remember one of the basic tenets of liberalism is America can’t win a war.
So, they feel the need to explain away any ‘win’ you might bring up. WWI, WW2, Gulf War, etc.
Its always the same.
Its telling that in 1960, they would have either supported the South, or if ‘up north’ they’d have supported McClellan in 1864’s general election against Lincoln.
You understood that? I’m either impressed or afraid that you have been exposed to too much liberal speak. What does it say?
>>>>The most likely outcome of World War I sans our misguided participation would have been a stalemate with both sides exhausted from 5 years of trench warfare. The rise of Hitler and Mussolini probably would have been precluded. Thus there never would have been a second world war.<<<<
None of this would have happened if America was never founded. Its all George Washingtons Fault!
That was the standard thinking 30 years ago. Nothing new.
There would not have been a WW II. There would have been a War in the Pacific between Japan and China which would have ended with a larger Japanese empire that included China and South East Asia. Japan would not have “executed the winds” if they didn’t have Germany to declare war on the US.
“Lefty navel gazers are just the dim landing lights on the moonbat runway” (c)
Yes! Presidents named George are bad! No more Georges!
Are you one of those guys who think that history is just some dust under the rug? Don’t you know that history is a living, breathing thing, changing as fast as the culture allows?
Time to pick up the carpets, give them a good shake and clean house!
While I agree that we should not have inserted ourselves into a war between Queen Victoria’s grandchildren. It was the Treaty of Versailles which led to the economic disaster that enabled Hitler’s rise.
Read the book “A peace to end all peace” and then go back and read what this article says again.
No, if Wilson hadn't hoodwinked the American people, the likely outcome of World War I would have been a German victory. Once they took Russia out of the war, the troops from the Eastern Front would have been available to go after the British and French.
The 1920s and 1930s would have been much different.
League of Nations?
Yea! Just like the "living, breathing constitution". All those shades of grey....... with apologies to the Grateful Dead.
Bingo!
If my aunt had any balls, she’d be my uncle.
Philosophy of History I can handle. This new fangled counterfactual history I just find silly. After all, if someone from today went back in a time machine and shot Adolf Shickelgruber’s mother before he was born, we wouldn’t have had Mein Kampf.
Or if the French had listened to Wilson and not been so vindictive in their demand for German reperations, then Walter Rathenau wouldn’t have needed to engineer hyper-inflation thus destituting the German middle classes.
It just doesn’t end.
“Its telling that in 1960, they would have either supported the South..”
In 1960 I supported the South. It was the centennial of the Civil War and everybody watched “Gone With The Wind”. The guys in the fraternities dressed in grey (complete with sword and hat) and the gals in sororities wore long wide dresses and twirled parasols. It was fashionable to immitate Clark Gable.
How do I know? I was one of those dumb engineering students who had to pound the books and did not have time to cherchez la femme.
Oh, how time flies, but frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.
I don’t agree. Because I still don’t understand what that sentence said. If I did; well, I’ld have an opinion.
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