Posted on 07/30/2007 2:01:00 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Geologists have found the remains of a huge underground rainforest hidden in a coal mine in Illinois. The fossil forest, buried by an earthquake 300 million years ago, contains giant versions of several plant types alive today.
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Also surprising is the presence of remains from mangrove-like plants. "It was always assumed that mangrove plants had evolved fairly recently," says Falcon-Lang.
(Excerpt) Read more at bioedonline.org ...
If you are interested in physics, time distortion and the human perception of time find the video “What the Bleep Do We Know?” You should find it quite thought provoking.
I’ll check it out, thanks.
There have been plenty of books that document what Townes is saying. If you haven’t already, you might want to check out Dr. Gonzalez book, “The Priviledged Planet.” Here’s the video based on the same, in case you’re interested—GGG
(This is part 1, you’ll see part 2 thru 6 on the right side)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQdxRj49m5c
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Ping of interest
Thank you devolve, I actually read here earlier and was hoping for more pictures. Would have pinged you then as it is interesting.
I’ll look to see if there are more links now, I did see the fern fossil pict.
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Great thread
I love it when they find fossils that prove what we thought was all wrong
From the list of definitions on my FR home page:
Proof: Except for math and geometry, there is little that is actually proved. Even well-established scientific theories can't be conclusively proved, because--at least in principle--a counter-example might be discovered. Scientific theories are always accepted provisionally, and are regarded as reliable only because they are supported (not proved) by the verifiable facts they purport to explain and by the predictions which they successfully make. All scientific theories are subject to revision (or even rejection) if new data are discovered which necessitates this.
You're standing on it.
Literally LOL!
I hardly need to read a book about what Townes said in that statement. He countered an assumption with an assumption. There is no basis for a doctoral thesis there or a need for a doctorate degree to understand how much water an assumption holds.
Depends on what you mean by "established" - the theory that electromagnetic radiation is carried by a luminiferous aether has more or less been proven wrong - or at least it's not taken that seriously by mainstream science. Lamarckian evolution fell by the wayside in favor of Darwinism and is now making a comeback of sorts. Bohr atomic theory was replaced by Schrodinger and Heisenburg quantum mechanical theory of atomic structure. In cognitive science, the theory of the homonucleus has been replaced by emergence theory, etc.
Thank you GodGunsGuts! Pictures are important on a subject like this.
Yes, me too. I love to look at fossilized things too. We have an annual “Gem and Mineral show” every October and they have a lot of it and it’s not cheap!
I curse the CO phone company that spent a year tearing this entire valley up to upgrade the phone lines yet cannot provide DSL here.
but but but doesn't the fact that ichthyosaurs are so dolphin-like destroy evolution? That resemblance must have happened on porpoise...
..and arguing only against the fringe of the other side.
As far as I can see, the "fringe" is most of the movement - a rejection of the mainstream scientific view that life on earth today is the result of evolution from earlier forms.
If it helps, most scientists don't accept that one species changes into a "totally different" species - i.e. birds don't turn into canines, but rather into different types or separate species of birds.
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