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Ancient fossil forest found by accident (potential major out of order problem for Darwinists)
news@nature.com (via BioEd online) ^ | April 23, 2007 | Katharine Sanderson

Posted on 07/30/2007 2:01:00 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Geologists have found the remains of a huge underground rainforest hidden in a coal mine in Illinois. The fossil forest, buried by an earthquake 300 million years ago, contains giant versions of several plant types alive today.

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Also surprising is the presence of remains from mangrove-like plants. "It was always assumed that mangrove plants had evolved fairly recently," says Falcon-Lang.

(Excerpt) Read more at bioedonline.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ancient; catastrophism; coal; crevo; crevolist; forrest; fossil; godsgravesglyphs
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To: GodGunsGuts

If you are interested in physics, time distortion and the human perception of time find the video “What the Bleep Do We Know?” You should find it quite thought provoking.


161 posted on 07/30/2007 5:54:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

I’ll check it out, thanks.


162 posted on 07/30/2007 5:57:17 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: TigersEye

There have been plenty of books that document what Townes is saying. If you haven’t already, you might want to check out Dr. Gonzalez book, “The Priviledged Planet.” Here’s the video based on the same, in case you’re interested—GGG

(This is part 1, you’ll see part 2 thru 6 on the right side)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQdxRj49m5c


163 posted on 07/30/2007 6:17:23 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: TigersEye

http://creationsafaris.com/crev200707.htm#20070727b


164 posted on 07/30/2007 6:20:26 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: potlatch

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Ping of interest


165 posted on 07/30/2007 6:20:34 PM PDT by devolve ( _Google-Illegals_Killed_25_Americans_Each_Day _A_Mex_Illegal_Alien_Sold_911_Terrorists_IDs_)
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To: devolve

Thank you devolve, I actually read here earlier and was hoping for more pictures. Would have pinged you then as it is interesting.

I’ll look to see if there are more links now, I did see the fern fossil pict.


166 posted on 07/30/2007 6:22:50 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch

Lots of pictures here:

http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/research/coal/fossil-forest/fossil-forest.shtml


167 posted on 07/30/2007 6:26:50 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: potlatch

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Great thread

I love it when they find fossils that prove what we thought was all wrong


168 posted on 07/30/2007 6:27:35 PM PDT by devolve ( _Google-Illegals_Killed_25_Americans_Each_Day _A_Mex_Illegal_Alien_Sold_911_Terrorists_IDs_)
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To: dan1123
All the while calling the theory "proven" and ridiculing all who doubt its validity.

From the list of definitions on my FR home page:

Proof: Except for math and geometry, there is little that is actually proved. Even well-established scientific theories can't be conclusively proved, because--at least in principle--a counter-example might be discovered. Scientific theories are always accepted provisionally, and are regarded as reliable only because they are supported (not proved) by the verifiable facts they purport to explain and by the predictions which they successfully make. All scientific theories are subject to revision (or even rejection) if new data are discovered which necessitates this.


169 posted on 07/30/2007 6:28:37 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: GreenOgre
I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a single piece of creation/ID evidence.

You're standing on it.

170 posted on 07/30/2007 6:28:54 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Literally LOL!


171 posted on 07/30/2007 6:30:03 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I hardly need to read a book about what Townes said in that statement. He countered an assumption with an assumption. There is no basis for a doctoral thesis there or a need for a doctorate degree to understand how much water an assumption holds.


172 posted on 07/30/2007 6:31:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: js1138
I can't name off the top of my head an established theory that has been proven wrong.

Depends on what you mean by "established" - the theory that electromagnetic radiation is carried by a luminiferous aether has more or less been proven wrong - or at least it's not taken that seriously by mainstream science. Lamarckian evolution fell by the wayside in favor of Darwinism and is now making a comeback of sorts. Bohr atomic theory was replaced by Schrodinger and Heisenburg quantum mechanical theory of atomic structure. In cognitive science, the theory of the homonucleus has been replaced by emergence theory, etc.

173 posted on 07/30/2007 6:31:22 PM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; devolve

Thank you GodGunsGuts! Pictures are important on a subject like this.


174 posted on 07/30/2007 6:34:01 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: devolve

Yes, me too. I love to look at fossilized things too. We have an annual “Gem and Mineral show” every October and they have a lot of it and it’s not cheap!


175 posted on 07/30/2007 6:35:36 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: GodGunsGuts
I do appreciate the links to the videos. Unfortunately on dial-up which never exceeds 28.8 kbps I will never see them.

I curse the CO phone company that spent a year tearing this entire valley up to upgrade the phone lines yet cannot provide DSL here.

176 posted on 07/30/2007 6:36:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: navyguy
This mangrove discovery isn’t a big problem for evolution. Its one plant fossil of something that resembles a mangrove. Thats hardly enough to destroy evolution.

but but but doesn't the fact that ichthyosaurs are so dolphin-like destroy evolution? That resemblance must have happened on porpoise...

177 posted on 07/30/2007 6:37:02 PM PDT by null and void (Whale oil: The carbon neutral, renewable petroleum alternative)
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To: dan1123
"Proof" has a fairly definite meaning. You can prove theorems in mathematics. But in science "proof" has a somewhat more flexible meaning in the sense that evidence for a position is so compelling that it's difficult to see that another approach is viable. Of course that doesn't stop people - some people still believe that 9/11 was an inside job with a controlled demolition despite any evidence to the contrary. Others believe the moon landing was faked, again despite plenty of evidence to the contrary.

..and arguing only against the fringe of the other side.

As far as I can see, the "fringe" is most of the movement - a rejection of the mainstream scientific view that life on earth today is the result of evolution from earlier forms.

178 posted on 07/30/2007 6:37:37 PM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: devolve
I love it when they find fossils that prove what we thought was all wrong

So do scientists.
179 posted on 07/30/2007 6:38:11 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: marinamuffy
I accept microevolution (species changing over time - sometimes very great change) but not macroevolution (one species changing into a totally different species)

If it helps, most scientists don't accept that one species changes into a "totally different" species - i.e. birds don't turn into canines, but rather into different types or separate species of birds.

180 posted on 07/30/2007 6:40:44 PM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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